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    #16
    SK is right on one thing Tom. Every farmer out their with crop out should in no way ever believe that crop insurance or CASIP will help them with this latest disaster. These programs fail miserably two year ago bumper wipes out frost of 02 margins still good on our farm payout will be sweet f___ all. Also when the hell will the powers that be realize that the Chinese are comunists who don't give a rip about their workers, and india more of their poor die in one day than all the people who will get swine flew in canada (H1N1). The biggest purchacers in the world don't care about their own so how do you negotiate with terrorist and ones with no moral concience. We should all Quit buying their cheap shit and get back to canadian and american made.

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      #17
      Small business worse off? NO! If we're economically in the shitter they are in the shitter if we're okey they are okey that's all.
      My rant is about 2 political parties that bullshitted us about how bad the liberal and NDP agricultural policy was and that agriculture could not continue as it was and on and on and on, and how they would be prepared for a disaster. They are fu%%%%% bullshitters that got us believing they would end the CWB end CAIS, get rid of property tax be prepared for weather disasters, clean up crop insurance etc. Hell they couldn't even end the gun control thing in spite of spending millions investigating what to do, H1N1 surprise surprise it's here where the hell is the vaccine no good after our kids are dead, but hell maybe we'll make a joke about those that die from it seems like that's how you get a cabinet post these days isn't it. Wall to wall incompetence.

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        #18
        CAIS can't cut in until at least 2010 for most producers. Which technically means 2011 because it is based on filing your income tax. The bad year won't be until 2010 for the bad income because its the 2009 crop that makes that bad income.

        Interesting that none of the rocket scientists at our farm groups didn't ask " ... why didn't the auto companies have to give them a five year average of net incomes and then wait two years for a payout...". That's the way you get people pst at you and then it seems governments/people start to listen.

        But I have to ask where is APAS and the NFU on this file?

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          #19
          APAS is simply a municipal tax on farmers.

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            #20
            Good Question- Sure don't here "boo" from APAS. Bet they still collect their big fat levy.

            As for CAIS- You can apply for your 2009 interim payment. The problem with that is if you don't qualify for a payment later when you fill in your forms after April, then you'll have to pay it back.

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              #21
              Every director who recieves a per diem should be bloody ashamed.
              I wouldn't say boo either.

              I threw out some rotten tomatoes from the bottom of the pan the other day that reminded me of APAS.Pars

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                #22
                Parsley.... the program you have tediously and
                generously translated is currently stalling/stalled.

                The unemployment rate in China is also rising...
                close to 7 % I think... and the western areas are
                disproportionally affected.

                The expansion of industry in the western cities was
                the plan to relocate the peasant farmers.... but the
                Gov't can no longer afford to maintain this
                expansion with out exports.

                BTW the $586 billion US stimulus is being focussed
                on the western region... but the problem is much
                larger.

                Water is also a huge concern for increased ag
                production, regardless of the scale of their farms.

                I wonder if their trend to commercial scale farms
                will be more productive?

                Nothing like desperation to drive conservation and
                attention..... Bill

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                  #23
                  Well, it's a bit stalled. but 2003-2008 was the first five year Phase I of three phases.

                  You don't suppose central planners will forget about the next two phases, do you(ask stu LOLOLOLOLOL)?

                  I think the peasants are getting online.

                  I have been translating their comment sections and blogs.

                  What is interesting is that a lot of English translations have been slashed. So you have to go to the ORIGINAL chinese, and then retranslate.

                  Already-translated info is deleted. Interesting. Pars

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                    #24
                    Parsley.... I don't think the Central planners will be
                    allowed to forget.

                    This is an information era... as your research is
                    showing.

                    The adoption of the internet allows for knowledge
                    and awareness... i.e. information.... and ingenuity
                    and technology tend to find ways around
                    censorship.

                    But economics seem to eventually prevail, and the
                    pace of adherence to the Plan will be somewhat
                    driven by priority and affordability.

                    BTW .. I think they still have close to 400 million
                    people to relocate!.... Bill

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                      #25
                      They have started Phase II. And have money apportioned in their budgets. They roll a lot of it around. And also look for ways to download their promise on some unsuspecting fool.

                      Was there quite a lot of canola buying activity? Meal buying activity? Meal rejection? Soy buying? oil buying? Selling?

                      All activities go hand in hand with a big heavy mamma with a purse full of money. IMHO LOL

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                        #26
                        skhad, this is the true work of free trade, lie to protect your own interests. So nobody is realy telling the truth - case in point - flax - mustard - beef - pork - lumber, and now canola.
                        WTF is black shank anyway, if it is not blackleg I doubt that it even exsists - Never learned about that in University - or I slept through that class.

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                          #27
                          Agreed Parsley... the whole bloody world has figured
                          out how to off load their costs.... EXCEPT.... ???


                          I bet you had figured out the answer before you read
                          the question!!.... Bill

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                            #28
                            Nostradomus once predicted "beware the yellow man from the east"

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                              #29
                              The combination of central planning/Communism and Capitalism: Commucapitalism, unique to China
                              will redefine both China and world trade. As the world comes to experience this force "eventually" may be a tad long for the individual to recon with. Which is why the national and international response will be a need for a coordianted global response team.

                              Our own national plan for diversificaiton of our product use, for addressing trade issues, and for internal policy to enable the individual producer to survive the surf is urgent as well.

                              The Chinese see a crisis and an opporunity as the same symbol. The opportunity for our industry is in biodiesel and increased crush.

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                                #30
                                Furrowtckler... black shank is blackleg... the
                                interpretation of Chinese... mandarin I think.. is
                                difficult.

                                Their word for leg translates into shank... a literal
                                translation.... Bill

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