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    Just for you three amigos Agstar and Burbert, cchurch.

    4. CWB Continues to Deny the Obvious
    by Alan Tracy, USW President

    The Canadian Wheat Board (CWB) is upset by language in the current Doha negotiating text that would outlaw export state trading monopolies like, well, the CWB. The folks at the World Trade Organization in Geneva clearly recognize that export monopolies inherently distort trade, a simple truth the CWB vehemently tries to deny. The CWB has generally lost that argument as the negotiating parties have come to understand that a monopoly's ability to fix their prices inevitably disrupts the trade that would otherwise take place. Lately the CWB has launched a lobbying campaign, asking western Canadian producers to complain about the Doha language to their government, even mailing out cards for producers to send in to Gerry Ritz, the Canadian Minister of Agriculture, demanding that Canadian farmers be allowed the "right to choose" their own marketing system.

    This sudden CWB interest in a "right to choose" for Canadian producers strikes us as more than a little ironic. Western Canadian wheat and barley producers have no choice of where to sell their crops; they can deliver only to the CWB. A couple of years ago, the Canadian government polled barley growers and found that a clear majority wanted a choice. But when they tried to allow open barley marketing the CWB, itself technically a part of the Canadian government, challenged them in court to keep the monopoly and won on a procedural point. .A few years earlier, the CWB itself had polled producers and heard back that about a third wanted to keep things as is, a third wanted completely open marketing and a third wanted to be able to ship to either the CWB or to other buyers. So, even though two thirds of the producers clearly wanted a choice, the CWB disingenuously spun the results as two thirds wanting to keep the CWB.

    The Doha round of WTO negotiations, if ultimately successful, will give western Canadian producers what the CWB has long denied them; the right to sell to whomever they choose. It is no accident that U.S. producers just across the border selling similar wheat earn higher returns, on average, that their Canadian brethren, due to CWB mismanagement and pricing games. The CWB is acting like the self-serving bureaucracy it is, and its newfound concern for producer choice rings hollow.
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    The U.S. wants the CWB gone - then it must be good for Canadian farmers? WRONG!

    The US wants the CWB gone because it lowers the WORLD price of wheat.

    The concept of the CWB is sound but not when it is incompetent - filled with incompetent people and overseen by left wing whacks.

    Come on Vader, I miss you and the gravy train you are on...

    #2
    Re: "The concept of the CWB is sound..."

    What is the concept of the CWB?

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      #3
      "The concept of the CWB is sound"????

      Sounds like you'd better make it a foursome, Weber, because with that kind of thought, you'd be more than comfortable wearing monopolist cuffs.

      Just for the record:

      Any government agency allowing one part of the country to export grain by providing them with the necessary licenses, whilst denying the other half of the country the necessary licenses, thus making them either sell the grain to the government or eat it, not only pits one part of the nation againist the other, but it destroys agriculture,family farms, and modifies markets into inventions lacking reason.

      Maybe the CWB experience is sound for you, or sound for the grain companies, but it is NOT sound for the farmers who depend upon the farmgate wheat and barley income the CWB allots us.

      Good grief. Parsley

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        #4
        Nice to see you shit the bed once in awhile and get up early Pars. I'm told that Tide works best on hard-to-get-out stains.

        The concept of farmers cooperating to gain an advantage is not sound?

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          #5
          Monopolist legislation that jails farmers is hardly "co-operation." And the CWB is NOT a co-op.

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            #6
            The Wheat Growers are not a co-op but are they cooperating to gain an advantage?

            The NFU is not a co-op but are they cooperating to gain an advantage?

            In your organic happy place, how do you deal with optional origin sales from your competition?

            In your proposed new world, how do you suggest western Canadian farmers deal with it?

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              #7
              The Wheat Growers are not a legislated monopoly. Neither is the NFU.

              The original "concept" of the CWB was the government downloading costs on the farming only segment of the population.

              I don't happen to like that concept.

              Parsley

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                #8
                You missed two questions:

                Cause - effect.

                In your organic happy place, how do you deal with optional origin sales from your competition?

                In your proposed new world, how do you suggest western Canadian farmers deal with it?

                You wont find the answer in google - so save your keystrokes.

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                  #9
                  If you want to have an organic discussion, simply post a new topic, Weber.

                  My reply addressed your "The concept of the CWB is sound" morning blurt, and one I'm sure did not go unoticed.

                  If you wish to discuss birds, or audit trails, or organic cerification or butterflies, fine, you will probably get several informmative responses.

                  In the meantime, if you could simply try to focus and follow the line of discussion on this thread, it would be helpful. Parsley

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                    #10
                    Optional origin has everything to do with "the concept".

                    For a UFC fan, I didn't expect you to turtle so easily.

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                      #11
                      Your original question was this Weber:

                      "In your organic happy place, how do you deal with optional origin sales from your competition?"

                      You specified "organic optional sales", which you now you relate to "the concept"?

                      Yes, well I will leave it up to you to explain relating your "concept" of the CWB to "organic optional sales", rather than provoke further word as well as insult.

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                      Just to sum up:

                      I cannot believe in your CWB "concept". Many large companies do support it because it serves them well, as their handling agreements on sedar.com reveal. AV readers can gauge for themselves if they embrace your Wheat Board "concept". Parsley

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                        #12
                        One can argue black is not black or the sky is not
                        blue.
                        Parsley your argument makes good sense.
                        Thank you.

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                          #13
                          Growing wheat for the board,
                          Limits the reward
                          Some like to sell,
                          without the pooling down Nell
                          Just like with rye,
                          choices are limited only by the sky
                          When you can access,
                          markets with success,
                          The reward can be limitless.

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                            #14
                            I really, really, really hate the board, and I rarely agree with Larry, but the concept of the board is sound. Agreeing on not providing a service, or in our case grain, unless a certain price is paid seems to work great for lawyers, accountants, mechanics.....

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                              #15
                              So, you support a forced monopoly selling of grain?

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