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    More on CWB and Saudi Wheat giveaway

    http://www.uswheat.org/newsEvents/wheatLetter/doc/D38D2792C75215E9852576880076A775?OpenDocument#

    USW President Alan Tracy recently responded to an open letter from Canadian Wheat Board (CWB) president and CEO Ian White about CWB wheat sales to Saudi Arabia. The text of Tracy’s letter follows:

    December 4, 2009

    Ian White
    President and CEO
    The Canadian Wheat Board

    Dear Mr. White:

    I would like to thank you for your open-forum letter,1 which provides me with the opportunity to respond more broadly to some of your concerns.

    I accept and agree with your sentiment that, despite the competitive nature of our respective industries, honest, fair and, respectful dialogue should be the norm in all of our personal and commercial discussions. With that said, I would like you to know that, while critical of your action, our public reactions to the <b>CWB's offering of obviously low-priced Canadian wheat on the most recent wheat tender in Saudi Arabia</b> were not intended with disrespect.

    <b>You have characterized our observations of recent CWB price discounts on the Saudi tender as 'groundless', 'false accusations,' and 'damaging.’ To the contrary, they are simply facts reported by the trade in various countries that participated in the tender and discussed in various trade and analytical media around the world. </b>

    As publicly reported in various industry sources, the Oct. 9, 2009, Saudi tender was for 550,000 metric tons (MT) of 'hard wheat,’ 14% protein (dry basis), with shipment through February 2010. The Saudi authority only solicited offers from limited export origins. Of those in competition, Argentina was effectively excluded due to its own dire wheat supply situation. Germany, possessing the only quality-qualifying wheat in Western Europe, was also virtually excluded.2 That placed the main competition between three traditional origins: the United States, Canada, and Australia. <b>Reports indicate CWB FOB-backed exporters sold all 10 Panamax cargos of Canadian wheat at an average price just below $254 C&F Saudi Arabia. Reports indicate that United States offers ranged from $279 to $292 per MT [metric ton] and Australian offers ranged from $270 to $280 per MT C&F Saudi Arabia3.

    The net result was that 550,000 MT of Canadian wheat sales closed at price discounts between $16 and $25 per MT below even the next cheapest Australian and United States offers. Taking an average of just the two lowest alternative prices, this means that the sale left in excess of $11 million on the table.</b>

    On the day that tender was conducted, the CWB offered Basis Contract for its flagship #1 CWRS/13.5 wheat at approximately $18 per MT over the Minneapolis December futures contract in-store Vancouver, BC. By contrast, the basis bid by U.S. exporters for our approximately equivalent flagship of #1 NS/DNS/14.0 was $55 per MT over Minneapolis December, rail, delivered Portland, OR. The CWRS Fixed Price Contact on Oct. 9 was approximately $211 per MT compared to the DNS flat price bid on that day of $240 per MT. Considering the additional discounts applied for handling costs at Vancouver, you must agree with me that <b>the disparity (exceeding $30 to $40 per MT) between these two cross-border price returns for similar wheat is absolutely glaring.</b>

    We have said publicly that this overt price discounting of Canadian wheat is unnecessary. Your letter says that you base marketing decisions on "factors such as price, quality, availability and marketability.” In recognizing the expertise and abilities of Canadian farmers and the overall good quality of the wheat they produce, we cannot understand which element it was -- quality, availability, or marketability -- that the CWB believed it should discount in order to arrive at sales prices so far below the competitive prices determined transparently in open markets.

    Recently, a UK-based news service reporting on the Saudi situation quoted CWB spokesperson John Lyons saying "... [CWB’s] goal is always to get the best returns possible for farmers, so we have no incentive to discount in the way they are talking about." 4 We fully agree and this is precisely our point. <b>The example above is evidence that CWB is not in fact maximizing returns for western Canadian producers, in spite of the organization’s repeated assertions to the contrary.</b>

    Frankly, we have a shared interest in this business on that point. While both countries are major export suppliers, neither country can supply anywhere near the world’s wheat import demand. We will each win some business and lose some business during the year. Therefore, the more successful Canadian wheat producers become in actually achieving their goal of attaining the best possible return from the marketplace, the better chance we have of doing the same for U.S. producers. I agree with you that western Canadian farmers should be choosing the methods they believe best maximize their returns. It is clear that most of them believe they should have choices other than just the CWB.

    I would close by, again, echoing your sentiments that it is our mutual desire to work together, but also to compete fairly in an environment free from trade-distorting practices and export subsidies.

    Sincerely,

    Alan T. Tracy
    President
    U.S. Wheat Associates

    #2
    The Canadian Wheat Board, where the lowest price is the law.

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      #3
      Can someone please explain to me again why we need a legislated government monopoly to discount our wheat for us?

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        #4
        http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSSYD42416920091012

        Australia, the world's fourth largest wheat exporter, missed out on a 550,000 tonnes tender from Saudi Arabia last week despite attempts by suppliers to promote the quality of grain grown in Western Australia to the emerging Middle East market.

        Saudi Arabia instead filled the order from Canada, saying it was the last purchase of foreign wheat this year.

        Traders said Australian wheat was offered at $270 to $280 per tonne based on 12.5 percent minimum protein. They said the pricing of the Canadian offering was not known but it was most likely discounted the Canadian Wheat Board's published price.

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          #5
          Yes the U.S. wheat associates are our buddies. They only want what's best for us. Thanks but no thanks!

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            #6
            You see, just like in other threads, someone always knows the price. And the real price will eventually be known. And until the cwb tells western canadian farmers what the actually selling price was on the saudi deal, I have a tendency to believe what is known at this point in time.

            It will be interesting to see if Sir Ian can respond to this letter with actual numbers or more rhetoric to escalate the pissing match he started.

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              #7
              Can you please show us evidence that their numbers are wrong agstar?

              Just saying the wheat board is always right and everyone else is always wrong without backing it up really isn't an argument.

              The US wheat associates certainly provided enough evidence to prove that the CWB got the lowest price on this sale.

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                #8
                As to the motivation of the USWA it is pretty clear in the letter. They want to be able to sell wheat for the highest price possible. I do too, and surprise, surprise it's the CWB who keeps lowering the bar.

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                  #9
                  Yes their motivation is clear. They want to get rid of the competition and unless and until we join with them to market together that is all it will be. If you wish to join them , pay their checkoff.

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                    #10
                    Still waiting for some evidence agstar. Lets see some numbers and sources.

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                      #11
                      Agstar

                      Do you think their checkoff costs a buck a bushel?

                      From the evidence in the letter that is what the cwb undercut on this sale.

                      And would you like to discuss the checkoff fee for growing durum at the current time.
                      At a very minimum the cwb reduced my value by 75cents a bushel by forcing me to store their grain for another day (july31 to August1) on my 08 crop. Which btw is not going to be paid for until dec10.

                      I would gladly live in a world where I could price my grain prior to growing it with prices that are reflective of the world price rather than the nonsense of the cwb.

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                        #12
                        AND agstar until someone at the cwb puts their numbers up their rhetoric means nothing. This "trust the cwb we are the best" mentality is bullshit until the numbers come out.

                        Oh wait, we are all too stupid to figure out the lousy prices they sell our grain for when we get our final payments for the year and compare them against averages in the states.

                        Weber keeps us up to date daily. All you would have to do is average the prices over the year and know the cwb is the weakest link.

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                          #13
                          God Aglooser are you just that plain out of your mind. Facts on what the beloved CWB does and you stick your head in sand. These loosers sold your product and mine at way below world price. Why to show they were doing stuff and had sales. Just blow our product out at any cost. They cost us farmers millions.millions millions.

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                            #14
                            It is obvious that the only direction the CWB can influence the market is downwards.
                            How many people at the CWB are making decisions on sales for thousands of farmers? I would be interested to know this. The fact that I don't know this or the fact that it really doesn't matter is infuriating to say the least!

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                              #15
                              U.S. Wheat Associates said it, it must be true.

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