Off to Panorama Skiing

[charliep]

I should explain I hit straight all the time. Straight into the brush/woods. Straight into the water. Straight into the sand.

[SASKFARMER3]

But Charlie in the Real world Saskatchewan We have no guarantee price option like Alberta. Sorry its all or nothing. Just saying all this BS about this huge crop and how come. Ill say it again how come we made way more money in the late 70s with canola the old way than we do now. Yes the 50 plus yield is nice but add in your seed and chem and fert costs and guess what its not like it use to be. Melfort tisdale the land of milk and honey ask any one who farms up their if they make more now or back then. Work hard when home play hard when gone. Party like your Irish.

[furrowtickler]

Back in the 70's 90% of the canola was grown on smf.

[SASKFARMER3]

Yes that's correct Ill give you that one but did you make more per acre growing bin run canola with treflan on SMF than you do now with Hybrid and all the extra I'm starting to think were becoming like CORN and "Soy" the chem make the money and us farmers keep digging a deeper hole. Hey Charley have fun hitting that dam ball around it drives me nuts chasing it. But their is BEER carts near by so always a good day.

[furrowtickler]

No - and - yes. Spread out the production over 2 years and hybred canola on stb can and does produce a more profitable return - but with more risk. And yes the cost of seed is much higher today than back then.
Remember that canola on stb yeilds were 20-25 now we are hitting over 50.

[hlg]

break down gross income. The inputs compared to total should be illegal.

[cottonpicken]

Wonder what the price of canola would be if we went
back to old technology.

[SASKFARMER3]

Higher than what it is now probably its old dollar a bushel higher than Soy. But no lets produce 20 million acres by 2018 so that producers can get paid 4.00 a bushel like hrs and durum or will it be like oats and barley.

[Choice2U]

Why does everyone compare now to the 70's....why not the 50/60's/80's/90'/00's. My dad was dirt poor until the 70's and it really wasn't until the 2nd half of that decade (5 years) when things were really good and he got out of a big hole. My point is that the latter half of the 70's is the anomaly while every other decade is the norm and it's been a struggle for most years with the odd short boom thrown in the mix.

[SASKFARMER3]

Because the boom was from 1976 to 1981 then the shit hit the fan. Not from Feb 25 to Feb 26. Then a constant decline.

[charliep]

Interesting how everyone wants to go back to the old days on canola. Perhaps we need to remember canola is being pulled by the consumption side as much as anything. There are markets to be filled and a supply chain that has worked together to do it. You may not like the Canola Council targets but they are as much more based on understanding market potential with the production side the challenge to satisfying this opportunity.

Yesterdays wheat PRO is likely a good example of the other side of the world. 2010/11 wheat PRO down $14 to $16/tonne. Canada loosing market share in world wheat production, world wheat trade and share of western Canadian acres. A good sign we are loosing competitiveness in world wheat markets as well as here at home.

[SASKFARMER3]

But charlie on the supply and demand side why as farmers every time we produce a bin burner the price just keeps dropping. Canola was suppose to have healthy oil markets yet the companies are not taking delivery of the product hired man still has stuff that was suppose to go in DEC. Its April in 5 days. So my point in all this is we produce more get paid less. But we keep feeding the middle man. Processors the seed companies fert grain buyers, all the parasites make yet by us over producing we just sc**** by.