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    #46
    Until there is more demand then supply, there are no solutions. trouble is all of you know this, you just won't accept it.

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      #47
      "if a farmer will cut inputs/costs (which also reduces production), get a better price, (which also means firing a 70 yeear old senile marketing agency"

      And you think neither of these could make a difference?

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        #48
        WD 40 your missing the point. In the USA I could have locked in a price for fall for Durum and HRS on my farm Not some BS system the CWB dreamed up in a bonding meeting. That's the fact. So then I would have had Oats locked in Canola locked in Lentils locked in and Filler crop HRS and Durum locked in. All with a small profit. But with the CWB I have Three out of the 5 Hm their is the answer to the problem we cant keep waiting years to see what the hell the crop sold for. This is 2010 its time to gut the sucker and rebuild it or gut it and move on.

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          #49
          Keeping some of the old machinery may not be a bad idea, will give the next generation an education on repairing. If all a farmer can do is stroke numbers on a paper and cry for a dealer to come fix this, his future generation may have a problem, sorta like the accountant trying to farm post. The next gen does have some problems here. Look at our road construction crews these days, hope we don't turn out like them.

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            #50
            Sorry I am a little off point also

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              #51
              No your not the farmers have to learn the whole system. A son should leave the farm after grade 12 go to college or tech or University what ever. Then Work in Related farm field, Retailer, grain buyer, CWB, Dealership etc. CN or CP. Then study these now come back to farm if you want. Also on fixing We have every thing from Brand new to used you learn to fix them all this spring the new Bourgault is a nightmare the old Deere is seeding strong. Hey but once the bugs are worked out who knows. But the CWB is like the highway crew they got big lazy and forgot what they were their to do. And who is their boss.

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                #52
                Trouble is SF3, that then becomes the price of the 'profit' the input companies can use for the new calculation of what the market, farmers, are willing to pay. If you ever think you are in the position to sustain a profit, you are dreaming.

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                  #53
                  But Canola, peas before the line companies got a hold of, lentils chick peas oats etc. Yes they do give each farmer just enough rope so they all don't hang. SO if we had HRS and Durum then maybe we would last a little longer before we suffocated.

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                    #54
                    How would farmers here feel about droping our system completely, CWB etc. and embracing the U.S. system with their, marketing, gov't intervention/support, and crop ins.?

                    Would that have greater support than just droping the CWB?

                    I've never heard any talk of completely harmonizing our system with their's.

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                      #55
                      Only way is become 51 state. Not the worst plan!!

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                        #56
                        what about getting rid of the government appointed COMMISSORS at the CWB? Isn't that a first logical step, to controlling the board. Don't you think, that they always fink out the CWB plans to their bosses in government? Duhhh, if its farmer, controlled, let's take it over and run it. Why do we need appointed Commissors to be on the board anyway? The government of Kanadia seems intent on controlling farmers, keeping grain prices low and insuring that grain is kept in the bin to ward off any hunger crisis that may come down the tube, (Good idea), but it does truly distort the open market. Doesn't it?

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                          #57
                          The CWB might grant SF3 a special "go to jail" card licence to export himself to Hawaii for the winter!

                          Board supporters will have to pardon me (maybe SF3, too!), but I don't know why the CWB is trying to reinvent the wheel that is known as the open market. It has to know that it will never be able to get there no matter how many more multitudes of program options it comes up with. I can't see that it is the board supporters that are pressuring the CWB for more options. All they want, after taking all the risks, and all the heavy lifting in growing a crop, is to take the CWB price.

                          I just want the CWB to disappear from my business.

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                            #58
                            So we vote and CWB supporters win. Whats the backup plan? More pointing fingers and saying how it should be. There needs to be some thought put into this possibility. Going to jail won`t change it.

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                              #59
                              Pro CWB supporters....I'll give you the right to pool your efforts if you give me the right to sell my own grain. Sound fair? Then farmers can vote with their grain on whether to use the CWB? Supporters can make entry or exit into the CWB as tough as they want and execute COMPLETE control.

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                                #60
                                What the heck...you may want to call it the CCB (Canadian Commodity Board), open it up to the rest of Canada....Call it the NACB (North American Commodity Board) and open it up to US farmers who want to pool their grain. I chose commodity rather than wheat because you may want to market lentils, peas, canola, flax, canaryseed, corn, soybeans as well in a pool environment. This choice thing might even work because you would only lose a few greedy Canadian farmers but you would pick up all the like minded nice, co-operating farmers from the US. Sounds like a win for you but I'll take my chances on my own.

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