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    Liberals want to control you fert and chem

    http://www.siemenssays.com/?p=24232



    <b>Be ware when a proposed National Food Policy manages inputs on the farm</b>
    Sunday, May 2, 2010

    The proposed Liberal National Food Policy is worry some to say the least, especially where it refers to better fertilizer and pesticide management when input costs are at an all time high, and most producers are better stewards of the environment than most so-called do-gooders. Producers live off and from the land making sure it is left in the same condition or even better than when they too over the stewardship of that land.

    Here is more to the last post of mine on this issue I received from Ottawa Parliament Hill correspondent Alex Binkley. This first one concerns him as it does me and it should every producer in Canada, even Ontario.

    “The Liberals have an environmental farmland stewardship plank. While strengthening Environmental Farm Plans and rewarding farmers for their role in clean energy production and protecting wildlife habitat sounds positive, farmers should ask some tough questions about what the Liberals mean by “improving fertilizer and pesticide management.”

    Read this next comment by Binkley very carefully.

    “That sure sounds like more restrictions on the use of either input. If so, it perpetuates the myth that farmers apply fertilizer and pesticides willy-nilly. The stuff is very expensive and with their low incomes, they certainly aren’t going to be using any more fertilizer or pesticide than they absolutely have to,” said Binkley.

    Remember, this is part of the proposed Liberal National Food Policy and they’re talking about fertilizer and pesticide management? Read the rest of Alex’s article.

    So what does the Liberals’ newly minted National Food Policy actually mean for farmers? Although most media outlets didn’t get it, the policy is aimed mainly at consumers with a couple of sections that could benefit producers.

    The main item for farmers has to be the clean slate promise to start over again in designing farm income programs. The Liberals say they will work “in partnership with farmers and restore AgriFlex to offer regionally flexible programs that help meet the costs of production.”

    The opportunity to actually shape support programs is pretty well what farm organizations have been seeking since the days of Gene Whelan. Instead successive governments have presented far too many farm income programs on a take it or leave it basis. While farm groups were consulted, Ottawa and the provinces had the final say in the program designs. If they’d worked, farmers still wouldn’t be looking for help.

    Laurent Pellerin, president of the Canadian Federation of Agriculture, says farm groups have told successive governments they’re prepared to assist in developing farm programs. They’re still waiting for an invitation to the table.

    The Liberals also have an environmental farmland stewardship plank. While strengthening Environmental Farm Plans and rewarding farmers for their role in clean energy production and protecting wildlife habitat sounds positive, farmers should ask some tough questions about what the Liberals mean by “improving fertilizer and pesticide management.” That sure sounds like more restrictions on the use of either input. If so, it perpetuates the myth that farmers apply fertilizer and pesticides willy-nilly. The stuff is very expensive and with their low incomes, they certainly aren’t going to be using any more fertilizer or pesticide than they absolutely have to.

    The policy also talks about promoting Canadian food internationally and expanding Canada’s share of high-value export markets, which the current government has worked at. It’s a long, slow slough.

    Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff statement that Canadians need more home-grown food will be frequently repeated. But 90% of Canadian farmers depend on export sales to pay most of their bills. While pork and beef producers do get squeezed by cheap imports, having a few more farmers’ markets around the country is a grand idea that won’t really solve many problems.

    And before we put more money into the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, the government needs to look harder at how it’s using its considerable resources.

    Agriculture Minister Gerry Ritz dissed the Liberal proposal but if the Liberals can provide more detail, they will at least get a listening to from farmers. Their challenge, as faces all parties, is to convince the voters they can deliver. Farmers have heard lots of promises in the past.

    #2
    Key quote- "farmers should ask some tough questions about what the Liberals mean by “improving fertilizer and pesticide management.” That sure sounds like more restrictions on the use of either input."

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      #3
      Just like the Liberal attitude that farmers are too dumb to sell their own wheat and barley now they're also too dumb to apply their own fertilizer and protect their own crops without federal bureaucrats showing them the way.

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        #4
        Don you see any possitive changes in last 4 years? Just a question.

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          #5
          It may be off topic but the one thing the government of any stripe has the power to control is the railway's charges. Interestingly they continue to ignore the facts.

          It would seem if they got the fert and chem companies on board like the railways - we would all be screwed.

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            #6
            I understand the frustration of being told that everything will be hyper regulated.

            However, if you look at the EU and their regulations, we have it easy. Even Manitoba compared to Sask and Alberta is a nightmare for fuel and fertilizer storage.

            All it takes are a few stupid environmentalists and we have to jump through more hoops to feed the same idiots that are causing us grief.

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              #7
              sumdumguy

              No. The conservatives have been taking my vote for granted the last few years.

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                #8
                I agree, but we have NO other choice. They are the least scary of a bad bunch. But how to scare them back?

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                  #9
                  Vote western independence? LOL

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                    #10
                    Read the wp today and easter made a good point - the liberals did put more ad hoc payments out than the conservatives ever will.

                    The conservatives just take my vote and use it. The liberals have paid more to try and get western votes.

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                      #11
                      Yea but from administrative point and 20 years with government the real winner our of any Liberal money was Govt Employees. Sorry Time it got down to the farm level what was promised turned in to pennies. They are the party of Smoke and Mirrors at least with the conservatives I get nothing and I know I wont get nothing.

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                        #12
                        Seems like the only thing I can remember getting from the Liberals is "The Finger" when Trudeau (Pierre) toured the west! Oh yeah, and still the CWB but I guess the two are the same thing.

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                          #13
                          "the liberals did put more ad hoc payments out than the conservatives ever will"

                          I certainly hope so. The only ad hoc program of any significance that the Liberals ever created was the sponsorship program in Quebec.

                          That program contributed at $30 million to the Liberal Party, and more to their friends.

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                            #14
                            No wonder we cannot move forward in agricultural policy, a party puts forward some ideas and before the question and answers are taken place the big let's be scared event happens. Scared of what? a party that has some ideas to move forward, maybe that is scarey to some because in the conservative years the only changes to agriculture have been cutting the already shitty programs (Liberal's Cais included) making them worse. What really might be scarey is a Conservative majority, some of the those extreme righties are just chomping at the bit to be able to cut the funding to agriculture after all that's really what they stand for isn't it no government at all, no premium assistance for crop insurance etc. why not wait and ask the question what does this mean for input regulation and get the answer first.
                            Neither of these parties give or will give farmers things we need, Chretien and his gang hated us and we hate them back, but the recent Liberals look like they realize there are a whole lot of seats out here being taken for granted.
                            The vote independance thing may have been taken as a joke by some but if we just did something like that maybe not independance party but as independants of the West we would get some action pretty quick.
                            So why the hell do we as saskfarmer stated votes for conservative even though he knows there is nothing for us, we are likely the only group or industry that does that, and then we wonder why no inprovements come to us?

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                              #15
                              Really! The Liberals have always looked after the little guys. Just think about it.

                              A hand full of people wanted to go metric. They got it.

                              A hand full of people wanted a new flag. They got it.

                              A hand full of people wanted the loonie. They got it.

                              OH, and a hand full of people wanted to get rid of the CROW. They got it.

                              All these people that got what they wanted should be just jumping on the Lib wagon. Maybe this is where getting rid of the CWB is?

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