Speed one seeds at!

[SASKFARMER3]

Slow down slow down slow down. This is all I read. Well last 10 years we seed with the second drill (now yes its wetter conditions) but average speed is 6 to 7 MPH. Every year were either top yield with oats or damn close. This drill seeds peas and barley. Both are always in tops for yields. But is it speed or design of seed boot. Soil etc. Canola council says slow down and go as slow as possible. One thing were in western Canada and with conditions most years we have to speed up to get the damn thing seeded in time. Now yes moisture does help a screwed up seeded crop but when one is getting into June and still has large amount of acres to go speed is our only friend. Also some times you need to speed up just to get across a flat area that you know will be a little wetter.
Any comments. Please.

[furrowtickler]

Speed kilss canola - 90% of the time.
But as you said when it is this wet ? Skim it in and get her done.
Just a note - over the past three years I have watched a local very large farmer who had to seed with speed. Always 10-15 bus behind the area average(canola). It caught up, was 40,000ac , now 15,000ac /-. All happened around may tenth. Sometimes too much is just to much. It is the speed that will catch up to you.
As far as cereals giver, canola - ground speed and fan speed will take 25% yield easily.
We seed all canola at no more than 4.8mph(4.5 seems perfect) with a fan speed 2800 to 3000. But every drill/opener/operater out there is different.

[furrowtickler]

That's - speed kills canola. Anyway, no frost this a.m., very cool next three days.

[SASKFARMER3]

We have rain again on way. Radar shows its a hour away.

[hobbyfrmr]

SF3 why not buy another tractor and drill? Or bigger drills. I think there are 80 - 100 foot drills being built. Then you would be more efficient with time.

[SASKFARMER3]

Yea a 100 ft would do really well where its wet should be able to drag that stone boat about 10 ft then stuck. Nice if your in Regina or moosejaw or rosetown. But sorry need to be 74 or under. You have to understand that even to tow between tank is better for us since your not dragging a anchor around and can get through more areas. have cameras to see drill.

[ado089]

The type and condition of your opener and soil type makes more difference than the speed. Paired row or side band is usualy where you run into trouble. If you go too fast your fert row doesn't close before the seed comes in. If your openers are worn the shelf the seed is supposed to sit on rounds off and the seed roles into the fert. If you want speed use a disc opener, go until the discs rooster tail and back off 1/2 mph. We use tech-notil so te seed is already in the botom of the furrow, we seed between 5.4-6mph and get great emergence, so good that our canola was the only in the area to freeze because it came up so quick...there you go, frost kills not necisarily speed.

[fjlip]

Neighbor seeds at 8mph with an older air seeder with sweeps and harrows, then harrow packs, maybe not when this wet, but great emergence other years. His depth is 1/2" or so. Low cost,easy to pull, etc. If it's real dry not so good. We travel at 4.5 with a 5710, trying for 1/2" at 4lbs. What rate are others using?

[furrowtickler]

There you go, depends on the drill,opener and soil type but in general slower is better. I have seen realy good results with tecnotills year after year even in very wet conditions.

[bucket]

6.5 for peas just because its so much product that is easily damaged.

7mph for everything else and now that its late maybe pushing 7.5mph. JD 1895 disc drill. Hates the wetter weather. Muds up terribly.

And speed does kill. wears the shit out of everything.