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    #11
    I believe, about a year ago it was estimated that China had the ability to produce about 1/3 of the world's tech needs for glyphosate. Estimate today is they have the ability to produce a 100% of the global needs, following a ramp back up of production since rules surrounding the Olympics were relaxed. I think this was under estimated by Monsanto and forced a virtual collapse of glyphosate pricing. This was one of the reason's glyphosate prices went up a couple years ago as well, as many production facilities in China were forced to shut down for the olypmics due to air quality issues, and China's desire to show a "clean china" to the world. Now dollars are what matters. Amazingly, bottled water costs more then Glyphosate.

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      #12
      I used knockout this spring and it killed the weeds just fine. Monsanto wastes a lot of money doing useless research like GM wheat. The last thing we need is the technology to produce more wheat. Cut that useless research out and they would do just fine. It is nice to see the humbling of Monsanto. Hopefully others will follow.

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        #13
        What is the cheapest glyphosate out there right now anyway?

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          #14
          when we had our supposed shortage a year ago , Monsanto put the screws to us back up to 8 or 9$.
          6-8 $/lb. for canola seed
          at this point i will buy the china stuff even if it costs more.
          time and time again it has been proven that the only real chem competition comes out of china.
          we sell our products at world prices ,
          we need access to inputs at world prices

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            #15
            I agree sawfly, just hoping there isn't too much lead in their chem!

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              #16
              I wouldn't be surprised if Monsanto gets it made in China also, really it aint so bad cause the polution can go there also.

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                #17
                We all breathe from the same air tank.

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                  #18
                  Clearout 41 I think does better job over the years. But a lot of poor results are opperators like the guy spraying last night on way back to regina around edgeley.

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                    #19
                    SF3

                    seriously - a guy out spraying?

                    Even if it was nice out doesn't it take a day to dryout and firm up.

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                      #20
                      I know that alot of independant retail has told mother M to eff off after the crap they pulled two years ago with glyphosate prices. They were the first to run the prices up and the last to come down. Even though they are competative now the appetite to do buisness with them has dried up. It's even led to greatly reduced support on the seed side.

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