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    Farmers paying more than fair share for freight says study.

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    Farmers paying more than fair share for freight: study

    Canada’s farm groups call for government review

    Regina -- Western Canadian farmers have been paying $200 million per year more for rail service than was considered fair under former legislation, a new study suggests.

    “Farmers were supposed to share in efficiencies in the grain handling and transportation system from elevator and track closings, but so far we have not,” said Greg Marshall, president of the Agricultural Producers Association of Saskatchewan (APAS). “We need a full costing review to determine fair costs for freight.”

    The study by respected rail analyst John Edsforth found that, rather than share in efficiencies, farmers have paid $6.87 per tonne more than what was considered fair and reasonable compensation for moving grain under the former Western Grain Transportation Act (WGTA).

    “This means thousands of dollars to the average farmer,” noted Allen Oberg, an Alberta farmer and chair of the CWB’s farmer-controlled board of directors. “On my farm, this amounts to between $17,000 and $32,000 per year.”

    The independent study was released today by APAS, the Canadian Federation of Agriculture (CFA), the CWB, Keystone Agricultural Producers (KAP), the National Farmers Union (NFU), and Wild Rose Agricultural Producers (WRAP).

    The study found that in 2008-09, farmers paid $8.81 per tonne, or $275 million overall, more than was deemed fair and reasonable under the WGTA. The previous year, they paid $4.61 per tonne, or $123 million, more than was considered fair. High volumes, rail efficiencies and low fuel prices combined to create the increased amount in 2008-09. The study updates a 2008 Travacon report that said farmers paid over $100 million more than their fair share in 2006-07.

    Farmers can estimate how much they have individually paid above their fair share using a new rail cost calculator on the CWB’s Web site at http://www.cwb.ca/rail.

    “Most farmers will be shocked to learn how much more they pay now than under the WGTA,” Marshall said. “No one is saying the railways shouldn’t earn a profit, but we are saying farmers should be paying a fair and reasonable amount.”

    Railway costs for grain movement have not been reviewed since 1992. Since then, transportation has seen two major efficiencies: the number of elevators has plummeted from 1,500 to about 240, and the railways have moved to multi-car blocks of at least 50 cars at a time.

    Prairie farmers are heavily reliant on railways. Farmers here move their grain more than twice the distance to port of any other grain exporting nation – Saskatchewan is 1,450 kilometres from the nearest port, compared to 650 for a farmer in Kansas and 280 for Australian farmers. For Prairie farmers, transportation is the single largest cost in marketing grain.

    The farm groups are encouraging all producers to join a call for action and make their voices heard. Farmers can go to the CFA’s Web site at http://www.cfa-fca.ca to submit an electronic postcard that will tell political leaders that a costing review is needed.

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    #2
    "For Prairie farmers, transportation is the single largest cost in marketing grain."

    Interestingly, who markets our grain??

    When the financial crisis hit and every industry took a hit, the railways jacked their rates. And not one company, marketing agency, farm organization or the cta had the balls to try and renegotiate freight rates in Canada.

    Another prime example of how powerful the railways are or how effective their lobby is in Ottawa. Notice the NDP,liberals don't want to take up the fight.

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      #3
      Ritz said in question period yesterday that canola growers wern't complaining after the liberals asked them why the haven't ordered a costing review.

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        #4
        The last time we had farm groups lobby we lost the CROW? Thanks guys.

        They don't need a study just ask farmers we know we are getting ripped in not only rates but service too!

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          #5
          Wasn't old enough to comment on the crow issue know that we did not get full value from its end though, however these same farm groups were responsible for the large amount the railways had to pay tthe wgrf under the maintainance issue, they also have been calling for a costing review by the CTA it is the gov't that has stonewalled that. I'm as fiscally conservative as hell but when you've got 0 competition for a service your going to get screwed , I appreciate the work done here and it is time for a cost review. It should be done every 5 years no question by a independant body not by the railways themselves. We need to be competitive in all aspects of agriculture if we can ever hope to remain viable. I watch the terms of service the terminals work under as far as loading but eh railways have none and its obvious where the power lies. Anyone know the number of paid lobbyists representing railways in Ottawa it's in the hundreds.

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            #6
            The Canadian Canola Growers Association
            (CCGA)requested a costing review. The
            CCGA was told directly by the Gov of
            Canada that a costing review would not
            happen while the level of service review
            was underway. The Gov of Canada also
            would not commit to one even after the
            service review was done.

            The canola grower groups, like many
            other farm groups, in Canada continue to
            push the Gov of Canada on this issue.

            Ward Toma
            General Manager
            Alberta Canola Producers Commission

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              #7
              Nothing is going to happen. It is all about the money. The railways know
              they still have a long way to go before they have any competition in grains.
              As long as they can jack rates, the shares and dividends can increase. The
              share value has a lot more political pull than farmers.
              The only solution is to make the railbeds as common carrier system
              like the US water ways. Then operate the railbeds like the river system
              or highways with government paying upkeep. We have already paid
              many time over for the construction and upkeep.

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                #8
                In large part, studies like this are worse than useless, in that they tend to draw arbitrary conclusions based on equally arbitrary standards.

                "Fair" freight rates are said to be those determined by the WGTA. Anything charged above that is thus "unfair". Has it occurred to anyone here that the standards set by the WGTA might have been unrealistic and nonsensical in and of themselves? If that is the case, then any conclusions based on these standards are bound to be just as nonsensical.

                Naturally there's no shortage of commentary from the marxist/socialist crowd claiming that they deserve something for nothing and that the government needs to loot more private businesses to give it to them.

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                  #9
                  I would agree with you Liberty if you made the following statement while talking about anyone but the railways,...."Naturally there's no shortage of commentary from the marxist/socialist crowd claiming that they deserve something for nothing and that the government needs to loot more private businesses to give it to them"....
                  as it was I almost choked on my afternoon coffee, and laughed out loud. I think if you will review the history of the railroads in canada they have had their nose in the trough more than anyone.

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                    #10
                    Gerald, you couldn't be more right. The rail system needs to be public and time/space be leased to the transporter. There is no way to have competition with a duopoly and right from day one the tax payer has foot the bill for the infrastructure.

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                      #11
                      Phoned the Fed. MLA office and they said that the excess money will go the the Grain Research fund again...What B.S....how about the flooded Farmers fund????

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                        #12
                        I realise that the costs need to be kept in check, but why not just buy share's in CP and CNR. That way you would get the benefit either way the rates go. JMO.

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                          #13
                          Gerald_sk I remember having a discussion on a radio talk show with Byron Dorgan (U.S politician) who was pushing to have Canada eliminate the Crow rate as it was a "Subsidy" and unfair. LOL.
                          I asked him how about the mississippi waterways that were taken care of by the U.S Army corp of Engineers. Wasn't that a Subsidy. "Oh that's different because Everything that goes down the waterway is subsidized not just grain" LOL

                          Typical American viewpoint don't do as we do but do as we say.

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                            #14
                            Wcfarmer, if it worked that way we could all just buy rr shares and quit farming. Come on there is a time to defend free enterprise and a time to say enough is enough. There is absolutely no competition in the rr industry, what is there, a 100 mile strip where the carriers overlap. The rr system has been part of the political marginalization of western canada since day one, now its an issue that economically hamstringed the west. Change needs to occur.

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                              #15
                              Wheat board propaganda

                              http://www.cwb.ca/en/hot/railissues/costingreview/

                              For you true policy nerds.
                              All Level of service submissions

                              http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/policy/acg-rfs-review-examen-sfm-sbmsns-eng-443.htm

                              While I have not read many. I have talked to people who have. Amazingly there is quite a bit of common ground over many submissions.
                              This is what Pulse Canada is asking for?
                              1) Service performance standards

                              2)Ongoing performance measurement, some kind of an independant monitor

                              3)Financial consequences for non performance. Its already there on shippers. now we need some reciprocal penalties.

                              4)Empower the Canadian transportation Agency to conduct independent investigations.

                              5) Quick independant dispute resolution process

                              If we as an Ag community can agree on these points. it would be a great start.

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