Climate change= more variable weather

[fjlip]

As burnt says normal depends on how far back you go, and whose numbers you believe. Human psychology needs to have a reason for all situations. We are searching for someone to blame for this doomsday scenario. What if it's just chaos, random action in the atmosphere? Anyone read Krushner's book, "Why do Bad things happen to Good People?"

[gregpet]

Al Gore is making a pile of money off this rising sea calamity while he builds a luxurious home in California. The biggest scam ever, his own ponzi scheme.

Gullible to believe CO2 has had any effect on weather. I think the weather is constantly changing and we have little effect on it.

The crimes/lies committed against the public by the Global Warming alarmists are too numerous to mention but the results of their actions are going to cost us millions just with the EPA and emission bs.

[Jagfarms]

Some interesting info on Volcano's

Volcanism Volcanism is a process of conveying material from the crust and mantle of the Earth to its surface. Volcanic eruptions, geysers, and hot springs, are examples of volcanic processes which release gases and/or particulates into the atmosphere. Eruptions large enough to affect climate occur on average several times per century, and cause cooling (by partially blocking the transmission of solar radiation to the Earth's surface) for a period of a few years. The eruption of Mount Pinatubo in 1991, the second largest terrestrial eruption of the 20th century[23] (after the 1912 eruption of Novarupta[24]) affected the climate substantially. Global temperatures decreased by about 0.5 °C (0.9 °F). The eruption of Mount Tambora in 1815 caused the Year Without a Summer.[25] Much larger eruptions, known as large igneous provinces, occur only a few times every hundred million years, but may cause global warming and mass extinctions.[26] Volcanoes are also part of the extended carbon cycle. Over very long (geological) time periods, they release carbon dioxide from the Earth's crust and mantle, counteracting the uptake by sedimentary rocks and other geological carbon dioxide sinks. According to the US Geological Survey, however, estimates are that human activities generate more than 130 times the amount of carbon dioxide emitted by volcanoes.[27]

[silverback]

And tell us now what plants will do when the concentration of C02 goes up?

[Jagfarms]

In order for a plant to absorb C02 all the factors have to be right. They can only absorb minimal C02 in drought or flood conditions which seems to be more prevalent with climate change.

And you think climate change does not exist.

• There is a high level of confidence that the global average temperature during the last few decades was warmer than any comparable period during the last 400 years. • Present evidence suggests that temperatures at many, but not all, individual locations were higher during the past 25 years than any period of comparable length since A.D. 900.

[TOM4CWB]

Gregpet,

Something has been missed:

'Gullible to believe CO2 has had any effect on weather'... the reverse is in fact the truth...

The weather effects CO2.

What effects weather the most?

THE SUN; Solar activity IE solar flares and increased radiation; will trump human activity by many times.

Human activity DOES affect the Climate.

Just that the facts prove C02 LAG climate change by decades... not predict future warming.

Why are there huge trees that are still have not petrified in the arctic?

Where did all the oil and gas come from up there?

We know for certain... the earth for certain had a much higher level of C02 than we have now... and that it was MUCH warmer than it is now.

As one UofA Prof said... no-one can stop the earth C02 levels from rising over the long term... they will get higher to a natural 'equilibrium' because of all the buried carbon on earth.

[gregpet]

Any idea where those weather stations were located? Check on that, may surprise you and then you might realize why the measured temperatures were higher. Or how about the data extrapolation to places where the weather stations were not warmer or they do not exist.

What a crock.

[gregpet]

I should have said gullible to believe human CO2 emissions have any effect on climate given the sun spot activity and natural CO2.

Thanks Tom.

[TOM4CWB]

BTW,

poking hole is oil/gas formations... miles under the ocean... might not be a smart move.

How did these hydrocarbons get there?

Obviously the earth was very different why these deposits were formed!

Dumping of millions of barrels of oil and releasing how much natural gas...

IRAQ invasion of Kuwait made a much bigger mess. Big spill off Mexico in late 70's also occurred.

I see the natural gas is the pressure behind the oil... it would virtually stop is the natural gas didn't push it up.

Desal plants will have large impact on weather... human activity especially irrigation is releasing mega tonnes of moisture into the air... THIS affects the climate!

[mustardman]

This discussion is starting to mirror our society today. NO One is accountable for anything or takes blame it always a finger pointing at someone else

[fjlip]

What if no one is to blame for weather? We try to reason it with ocean temps, volcanoes, earthquakes shifting earth's rotational axis, sunspots, human activity, etc. So many variables influence it, or a combination of all. Hard to cope with any kind of change for all of us.

[derek75]

if you think man is responsible for global warming, hold your breath until your part of the solution

[burnt]

Now that was funny!

[mustardman]

Beam me up Spock, we have no signs of intelligent life on this planet.

[derek75]

inhale 350 ppm exhale 40000ppm commit to your cause become acountale