Denial, denial, denial

[oneoff]

Parsley It's the government setting the price; because they are topping farm (or school boards budgets) up to what they decide you should get.
And parsley; with contaminated flax on all sides of every organic operation; and GM alfalfs sprouts ripe for positive test results and imminent GM wheat contamination coming to all our areas; just how are organic buyers reacting to the Canadian out of control situation. Don't forget that organic farmers inquire every year about my "contaminated" grains for planting their organic crops.
But don't take any of this seriously. Come on ... Really.

[parsley]

My point has always been this:

We get the kind of government we deserve. The only reason property school taxes decreased somewhat is because a few farmers (administratorss fought against it and so did gov't and so did teachers) got mad, held meetings, and said "NO"

Few farmers will take a leadership role. Most of the decision making is left, uncontested, to those who do not care about farmers, but only what farmers produce, hence profit goes to the diggers, while farmers stand back tinidly and wring their hands and yell, "Victim!"

That is of the biggest reasons why I have always tried to take time to write on AV, not because it makes me money, but because farming as a whole will do better if ordinary farmers stand up and say, "Hey, this is my industry, don't speak for me!", and show some hutzpah.

You cannot legislate leadership.Or business accumen. But it can develop. Pars

[parsley]

oneoff,
I believe farmes can make piles of money (there is no one in the world who does not buy food), but the path cannot be legislated. It has to be outmuscled.

We cannot be whoosies. Pars

[oneoff]

Totally agreed

[parsley]

Well, ladies and gentlemen, we have TWO farmers agreeing.

This is called progress.

Could we make it three? Three anyone? Going once, going twice...?

Pars

[oneoff]

I doubt if we'll get to three soon.
Looks like we lost charlie about dinnertime today. I think he snuck out without answering if he stands behind the statistics that he directs you to.


He started a crop insurance thread to fine tune the fairness of that great institution that only government could subsidize..... I mean make payments to. Still I haven't decided if this government program is really a payment or an exercise in busywork. I prefer to use such time to make some money on my own; or stir the pot in the hope that over time; some of my thoughts may evolve into the ideas that some others may make their own.

[charliep]

Actually no problem with the numbers with the caveat they are aggregated
based on a process of which I participate in to a small extent.

As indicated, I will see a presentation by Statscan on Tuesday. Your
posting have provided some interesting questions.

[TOM4CWB]

Oneoff,

Insurance is all about 'cross subsidisation'.

If multi-nationals get involved... do you really think it would be cheaper or better coverage?

If someone steals you neighbours truck... or puts a rock through a rotor... we all pay!

What exactly is the difference... except if CDN crop insurance were commercial... rates would be going up to pay for the oil clean up in the Gulf of Mexico... or fixing the world trade centre after 9-11!

[TOM4CWB]

Pars... Oneoff...

My bet is that you are true farmers... and won't agree for long!

<(>:{ GRIN!

[oneoff]

That may be true; but I almost promise that we won't become enemies. And further Tom; I'm just about certain the same could be said about you and I.
We're all in this together; and we as farmers certainly have enough others who are not our friends.