Wtr. Wht. Grading... WHAT A RUDE Joke!

[TOM4CWB]

Did you see this Charlie?

Wtr. Wht; If you have below 11% px... it turns into a Grade #3?!!!

'WINNIPEG, MANITOBA, CANADA — The Canadian Grain Commission (CGC) announced on July 16 that effective Aug. 1, 2013, the following wheat varieties will be moved from the Canada Western Red Winter (CWRW) class to the Canada Western General Purpose (CWGP) class:

CDC Kestrel;
CDC Clair;
CDC Harrier;
CDC Falcon; and
CDC Raptor.
"We recognize that producers grow these varieties for a reason," said CGC Chief Commissioner Elwin Hermanson. "By reclassifying these varieties, we are making sure that the classification system meets the needs of Canadian grain producers."

The CGC plans to reclassify some CWRW varieties in response to feedback from farmers and other stakeholders of the Canadian grain industry. It was felt that the CWRW class should reflect milling quality. Continuing to include varieties with high yield but low milling quality in the CWRW class affected the overall ability of this class to compete in global markets.

In response to concerns about the consistency of quality in the CWRW class, the Canadian Wheat Board initially split the class into two categories: select and generic. Select varieties were those that had a minimum of 11% protein and high milling quality. Generic varieties did not often meet the minimum protein requirement, but tended to be high yielding.

Effective Aug. 1, 2013, all generic varieties in the CWRW class will be moved to the CWGP class. All select varieties will remain in the CWRW class.

In the interim, to help farmers and the grain industry manage the quality issues associated with CWRW varieties, the CGC proposes the following grade standards changes to take effect Aug. 1, 2011:

Set a minimum grade specification of 11% protein for No. 1 and No. 2 CWRW.
Create a No. 3 CWRW grade for deliveries with less than 11% protein.
Reduce fusarium-damaged kernels (FDK) tolerances'

[mcfarms]

Would have gone through the standards commitee and wheat sub committee have you talked to Lloyd Mercer as he represents the winter wheat growers on the Standards committee?

[grrrr]

I agree. And you can add Jack Layton and the NDP to the list.

[checking]

Just to be sworn at, I'll say what's your beef? No one is forcing a membership on you. Maybe they are like a Greenpeace who have the ability to stay focused, and won't compromise their positions. Those are their attributes that I find most appealing, even though I wouldn't join up.

[Koldkanuck]

I once seen a meeting that the NFU had in my area. Seen 2 people walk in......1 hour later, same 2 walked out. That's all that showed up. And they are still in existence....? Good grief.

[oneoff]

Sounds a lot like local council meetings and ratepayers meetings that aren't held; and involvement in other farm organizations.

Just could be that it all goes back to individuals who are too apathetic; too busy; too self centered; to smart; to dumb; whatever and on and on ad infinitum. We get the leadership we deserve; and there will always be some tyrant there to fill the void.

[grassfarmer]

Good points checking. Another reason that you can read their articles quite often is that they have members who are both articulate enough and smart enough to write intelligent articles. Not the case with your run of the mill prairie ag producer in my experience. As checking said nobody is forcing you to join, or read their articles. Or do you wish to control the media(in a very un-socialist way of course)to prevent their views being heard?

[silverback]

And here's grassy showing up to let us all know just how smart he is again and how ignorant the rest of us are.

How in the world could such stupid people not like the NFU? What's not to like with an organization who works so very hard to keep farmers (in AB, SK, & MB)chained together so everyone shares in the equal justice and below average returns?

How did us intellectual inferiors ever survive before you moved here from Jolly old England to improve our lot in life?

Classy grassy.

[oneoff]

And just what was classy about your post silverback.

[oneoff]

Remember; anyone can always default back to no argument; and just sling mud and accusations.

[ProFarmer]

I grow Falcon to me it is the best wwheat to grow and the CWB will not try and market it.I should be able to sell it to who I want to. The CWB has done a shitty job for years and has got their blinkers on and only can see a sale for #1 hard red spring wheat and nothing else.

[silverback]

No argument? Did you read?

The NFU loves the cwb and all the power it exerts over farmers in the designated area. So does grassfarmer - even though he raises no grain of his own.

Is that clear enough?

Did you read his post? Do you think you are a run-of-the-mill prairie ag producer? or something better?

Thanks for the lecture though, I think I remember graduating from University about 40 years before you were probably born and I heard enough lectures then.

[gustgd]

Want to know what McCreary Hill, Olberg, Geoff, Kornechuck all have in common? They have all worked us over in the CWB elections. Mock them all you want. The NFU is well organized and well versed in farm politics, Underestimate them at your peril. I persoally have been to meetings were they packed the second floor ballroom of the Besborough in Saskatoon. Maybe 10% farmers in the mix to answer questions for the media but they can fill a room if the NDP & rent a protest crowd are invoved.
I was quite pleased to see their new presidentTerry Boehm get verbally worked the other day, when some one who knew better called shenigans on the BS he was spewing.
Most of them can spin quite a tale, but a little knowledge is dangerous.

[wmoebis]

Good point mcfarms.
Do these reps report back to thier assoc. On what and why changes are made? Do you have to be a member of every org to get reports or are they available some where for public knowledge?

[stubblejumper]

Should CDC Falcon be demoted to General Purpose?1/12/2010 | By Jay Whetter, Grainews
Winter wheat growers need to deal with the CDC Falcon issue if they hope to improve the end-use quality of the Canada Western Red Winter Select class.

This issue was raised during the Saskatchewan Winter Cereals Development Commission meeting Monday at Crop Week in Saskatoon. The Canadian Wheat Board is trying to sell Canada Western Red Winter (CWRW) Select wheat in a market dominated by U.S. Hard Red Winter.

The challenge, according to Michael Lackmanec, the CWB’s director of marketing strategy, is that U.S. HRW has consistently higher protein -- a key indicator of milling quality -- and annual volumes of 30 million tonnes or so. Canada produces about one million tonnes of CWRW with protein down around 11 per cent. Millers and bakers in this market are looking for a consistent supply of mid-quality milling wheat in high volumes and at a decent price. CWRW Select has a hard time competing.

So Western Canada’s winter wheat growers have to improve their product quality if they want to sell winter wheat into the milling market.

Therein lies the issue with CDC Falcon. It, along with four other less-popular varieties, has poor milling quality yet is still in the CWRW class. Granted, it’s not on the Select list, so it rarely gets selected for the milling market, but its presence in the class suggests that Western Canada is not really serious about developing a milling market for winter wheat. That’s the argument. “We want to cruise forward rather than sputter,” Lackmanec says.
Michael Lackmanec, the Canadian Wheat Board’s director of marketing strategy, explained to members of the Saskatchewan Winter Cereals Development Commission why CDC Falcon hurts the Canadian Western Red Winter class. -- Jay Whetter photo


The CWB has proposed two options:

Option 1 is to demote CDC Falcon, CDC Clair, CDC Harrier, Kestrel and Raptor to the Canada Western General Purpose (GP) class.

Simple. Problem solved. Growers can still grow these varieties and sell them into feed markets as they’ve always done. The CWRW class is cleaned up…

Oh, but not so fast. CDC Falcon is far and away the most popular winter wheat in Manitoba, accounting for 68 per cent of acres. Demote Falcon to GP and Manitoba Winter Cereals Inc.’s checkoff is gutted to the bone.

Without Falcon checkoff money, Manitoba Winter Cereals can’t fund important research programs. Without research, winter wheat production fades. And since Manitoba accounts for a large percentage of winter wheat acres in Western Canada, winter cereals growers across the Prairies are willing to compromise.

Enter Option 2. Leave Falcon on the CWRW list for a couple years, then cut it loose. In that time, Manitoba growers, with help from breeders, will have to adopt a milling-quality replacement.

That’s easier said than done, since new and high-quality winter wheat varieties are hard to come by these days. Rob Graf, a breeder with Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada at Lethbridge, has a new variety, Broadview, but it’s a GP and doesn’t help as a Falcon replacement.

However, his W434 is eligible for the Select group. It also has protein of 12.3 per cent compared to 11.2 for the checks, yield 104 per cent of checks, and sufficient rust resistance for Manitoba. That will be the variety to watch.

-- Jay Whetter is editor of Grainews.