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    #21
    The only difference between them all is the surfactants and additives. The glyphosate is all the same and to receive registration the glyphosate salt needs to be equivalent and the weight of the active ingredient guaranteed.

    In most cases using more cheap glyhosate is better then the more expensive with additives. Add a group 2 like sulfons to a cheap glyphosate and it is much better again.

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      #22
      wd9

      It isnt all the same - there are different kinds of salt. Try mixing TD and Transorb like i did last year (I switched over and didnt clean out the tank) and tell me its the same. A wasted tank of chemical and a day flushing the hell out of the sprayer is what I got. If its all the same that wont happen. You are wrong.

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        #23
        After years of custom spraying, retail and farming I've noticed that the high concentration products are harder on the crop and less effective on the weeds. In my opinion there is not enough surfactant in them to when spraying at 1/2 eql and/or more than 5gal/ac to condition the water. This year I used Polaris (Dupont's 360g/l) and got the best kill I've seen in a long time. 1/2L/ac looked like a full litre, it even got the foxtail barley around the sloughs. Nufarm now has 15 minute rainfast on Credit 45 and my rep told me today that Nuglo comes out of the same tap.

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          #24
          Apparently the Amerikins are running ita some issues. WEED RESISTANCE TO GLYPHOSATE..... Please tell me its not true, cause Comedians are dumber than them, sooos the problem will likely be here sooner than later. With all this cheap product available, likely sooner than later, then what, then what, back to integrated weed management. Whoa is me, whoa is me. Clubrot, now Monsanto rot, what next??? Rot rot me guesses!!!

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            #25
            sjc, work at the university of Illinois and purdue university found neglible differences between the salt formulations and aditive differences.

            Glyphosate is an acid and is the same regardless of the salt formulation you get in the jug.

            You have the parent acid (glyphosate) plus isopropylamine or ammonium or potassium etc salt for mixing and handling plus the surfactants.

            Weathermax is potassium and touchdown is diammonium and the original is isopropylamine.

            But the glyphosate acid is all the same.

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              #26
              Oh and don't mix different salts as they have dramatically different molecular weights and ability to hold an acid.

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                #27
                I was told that adding some 28-0-0 liquid fert helps to get a good kill.
                Does it act as a surfactant? If so how much should be added in proportion?

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                  #28
                  Using ammonium sulfate helps with hard well water. At 5 gpa spray rates I use 0.5 % w/v or if using 10 gal/acre for preharvest will up ams to 1%

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                    #29
                    Just make sure you add ams first so glyphos doesn't get "tied up " with the hard water

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