So Alberta is Going to Save the Day! Ha HA.

[Choice2U]

Oneoff...You MIGHT have some credibility with your comments about democracy if all of Canada was under the CWB but since others have a choice, I am merely asking for what other Canadians have....OK...I am being greedy again.

[wd9]

If i am to understand oneoff, there is a strong requirement to do things collectively thereby mitigating risk, but also unfortunately limiting reward.

Does the CWB alone fill that collective requirement, or is it that we "designated area" must deal with the CWB by virtue of the monopoly within the ACT? Basically is just the CWB enough by pooling grain to satisfy your business model?

[oneoff]

One person does not a democracy make.
Apparently there are many people who just can't face the fact that it takes a majority or even 66% or more support to make changes in our system.
As for dwelling on the word collective; That just the same as branding someone with being a commununist or Nazi. Doesn't take any though or understanding at all to do that.

[newguy]

I believe every farmer in Canada should have the same right. That is a Human rights issue. In Canada even minorities have rights!!!

[silverback]

It would be almost impossible for me to label someone a nazi so don't throw that out there.

On the other hand, in my mind anyone who advocates shared resources and equal outcomes for all shares the same values and philosophy as my definition of communism.

Oh yeah, and if you are ok with letting the government and police put your neighbors in jail for trying to do what they feel is best for their family and situation, you might be a communist.

Now the definition of Marxism is?...

[wd9]

I'll try asking again. Would having the CWB alone be enough by it marketing and pooling grain and sharing the proceeds of sale the same for those who use that service or do you feel 'making' everyone (by everyone i mean a select group singled out in Canada) deal with the CWB thru the power of the monopoly?

What is important to you?

I think leaving racial slurs, moms, and personal comments out and focus on the issue at hand is prudent.

[TOM4CWB]

WD9;

You are spoiling all our fun!

If by now you didn't get it...

This is not about logic.

This is not about the highest returns to growers who grow grain in the 'designated area'.

The CWB is a handy tool to supply consumers with cheap grain. Canadian, US, EU, African, South American... and maybe even a few in the Middle East, India... and then for the mother of all Communists; CHINA.

[oneoff]

And I think its futile to debate with you the matters of any of you doing absolutely anything you think necessary for your family; or your right to freedom from the CWB etc. etc. Those are not necessarily examples of rights. If they were; you wouldn't have nearly the problems we all have exercising them. People can be so blinded by their crusade; that they no longer see the laws and regulations which are the basis of the current democracy. And yes it is extremely probable that if you did get your way; that more serious problems would ensue.
And yes I believe in; ; strive for and hold out hope for a more functional democracy. Probably to a greater degree than just about any other poster. Calling me a communist is untrue; and doesn't hurt a bit. I like the word socialist because of its effect on red necked welfare bums. But democracy is our best hope and can be very difficult for wannabe dictators both big and small. The necessary slowness of changes can indeed be a source of frustration to us all. But we do get the governments we deserve; and eventually the will of the majority will be relected in our society.

[wd9]

Guess there is no point asking again.

[Choice2U]

I guess Oneoff would have just been Mr. Happy in the old USSR where the Communist Party held all the seats and those that were not party members had no vote. The Communist party had a democratically elected leader and by Oneoff's definition, he would have had absolutely no reason to complain had he been a commoner but had he been a party member.....Oh, wait, he said he was not a communist. It only took from 1918 to 1989 to fix that type of democracy (71 years). Ironic how the CWB democracy is 71 years old this year. Please don't critique my dates as they might be off a few years.

[oneoff]

Jut because you have a vote; doesn,t at all mean you get your way.
Everyone can'tget their way at the same time.
You pretend to defend democracy and live your lives unsatisfied with the ststem supposedly failing you. Well that about as good as it will ever get.
As for the conflict between CWB and your freedom; why isn't democracy working for you today?
Still not a communist; but tell me what you are?

[wd9]

I don't understand the question.