Russian Farmers Recieve More For HRS than Canadian farmers with the CWB!

[TOM4CWB]

SF3,

Since by far the vast majority of wheat grown in Russia is Winter Wheat...

"Wheat is approximately US $4.00 or US $160 tonne in the Southern Kuban region 1,000 miles south of Moscow it is about US $5.00 a bushel in Voronezh, half way between Moscow and Kuban."

Even spring wheat isn't close to DNS/CWRS quality.

Apples to Apples.... quality matched... expenses accounted for... the Ruskies will make far more than the CWB gives for our 25bu/ac 14px falcon winter wheat.

Stubble you can sell all your wheat to the CWB for decades to come...

As long as we are allowed to bid our wheat out at auction; at a higher price than the CWB pays you (so you can't complain we are undercutting your CWB markets)... or just allow a genuine cash bid market...

Instead of forcing all sales of CWB wheat (CWB daily cash price the CWB pool) through the CWB daily pooling sales system.

The CWB has proven time after time... WARD P. WEISENSEL's Warped Wheat set up growers sales system backwards...

Instead of holding wheat values up... the CWB holds wheat values down... because buyers need not bid up prices to attract sales from 'designated area' grain growers... as (we) growers are forced to sell to the CWB alone.

No public transparency in commercial purchased volumes or values... with the growers pool to hide accountability... and 'buy back' hand cuffs to pad the CWB pool... stifling any 'designated area' grower who would seek more for their grain.

A perfect BUYERS monopoly to keep prices DOWN.

[TOM4CWB]

Stubble,

What is the first real monopoly effect in Russia... of their new grain sales system?

TO HOLD DOWN wheat PRICES. To Prevent food inflation.!!!

[DogPatch]

I am not claiming to be Pro CWB or anything, but I have a question for you in particular Saskfarmer3( ) You always quote what the other guy is getting, but do you ever consider that maybe their markets are right next door to them? What would your freight, marketing and other cost become if you did market your own grain? Would you still be complaining if the price went up the very day after you sold it? Don't you think that if the other marketers out would do better, then why don't they give you better than Feed Wht price now? If Viterra has all these mills in the USA, then why don't they give you a better price now?

[malleefarmer]

Isnt it a case of basis narrowing due to a certain situation.

Drought years here in australia when little is exported our local prices go through roof compared to international prices.

[SASKFARMER3]

Guys lighten up it was a joke post. Russian farmers are receiving off the combine more than any farmer in Western Canada.
The CWB initials are a joke this year, it will take them and the govt months to change the price upward. It will take years till we get a final price out of the 2010 crop from them. That it the gist of the thread.
The thread is a joke the CWB is a joke. White on white.

[hobbyfrmr]

I do not want to create too much angst here, but, I google mapped Berthold and it is a tangible destination. I have hired truckers to deliver from Blaine Lake, SK to Clyde, ND. I have also had (tandem semi) trucks deliver to Iowa. Freight was roughly CAD $1.70/bushel to Iowa this winter. Loading a rail car is just over half this cost. I would strongly recommend loading rail cars. I guess what I am trying to say is that it can be done.

[TOM4CWB]

Hobbyfarmer,

Just 1 small thing:

August 25/10

1CWRW CWB buy back is $243.07/t
1CWRS 13.5 buy back is $304.88/t

That is what it costs to buy your own wheat back from the CWB.

Hope you are rich... and have much money to share and to blow into the pool accounts!

Comes no where near Aug 25/10 PPO values:
1CWRW CWB cash is $235.52/t
1CWRS 13.5 cash is $272.46/t

The only power the CWB has...

The CWB is to extract $$$ from 'designated area' wheat growers...

The CWB monopoly at work for millers and industry alike... to STOP 'western Canadian designated area' (slaves) growers from innovation and seeking more value for their wheat and barley through honest hard work.

Confiscating Wheat and Barley (CWB).

[hobbyfrmr]

TOM4, Agreed, the buyback is crazy expensive and I do not agree with it. I was selling oats, flax, rye and other non board grains. I have not grown wheat in a long time, I was a chronic dissapointment in my youger years and so I just stepped off that merry go round. I just could not cash flow my farm growing average yeilding wheat, so I went to other grains.