Hows your "F - - KING" Day going!

[DogPatch]

Youshers...... obviously an epidemic of Cabin fever or male PMS,

Turn off your Blackberries and try and have a good weekend!

[freewheat]

BGMB Said:::::

"And one more thing I think the gov should only support farmers who have shown they can make money farming. That how agristability works. Have a good history, then a bad year, bang... you get a pmt.

Have 5 shitty years in a row guess what you either have extremely bad luck or you are a shitty farmer either way you get no money. Enough of this ad hok 30$ bullshit. In our area the only guys getting the 30 bucks are dog Fu&*ers"


First off, Welcome Klause!

Now for bgmb’s comment. There are some vast areas which have had poor weather for multiple years, that agrisnot will not help. As far as guys not needing 30 bucks, or us being that despicable phrase you stated us to be, think again. We could not seed because it was impossible, again. We probably will not seed again next year. How would your marvelous management be with no crop 4 out of 6 years? Do you think a few thousand good managers should be left to bankruptcy due to weather? Or should we just abandon some of the highest historic producing grainland in western Canada and call it a marsh? Think before you blab.
When is whoever runs and moderates this site going to grow some and toss out all these guys who have to swear to get their point across because their brain can’t function using gentleman’s plain English. It is getting tiring. If you need to spout off crap like a little high schooler to get your point across, you don’t need to be on here.

[stoopidbastard]

Hey klause

apparently being as happy as you can when things
turn to shit aint the way things are done round here,
interesting place, good luck to all, it sure sounds like
some of you need it, we are having and average
season here and we are lucky

SB

[bgmb]

Freewheat,

Your right that was a bit rude, but i still stand by my point that agristability is the best program out there as far as rewarding good farmers with money when things turn bad.

The only farmers in our area who are getting the 30 bucks are guys who had twice as much time as they needed to get a crop in but chose to sit and wait. then it turned wet and now they are getting 80 bucks an acre. And its the same guys over and over again.

I don't know why that money would even be available in our area.

[fjlip]

Where is your area? Sounds like its low risk and drier than mine. What is land selling for?

[bgmb]

land is all over the map anywhere from 400-1000 bucks in the last 5 years.

you want cheap land? first thing to do is get rid of the 80$ too wet payment

[riders2010]

So for all those guys that had great crops all along and now many of them might not have any crop did they all of a sudden become stupid managers? No it's the weather that will determine how much income or not in the next 2 to 4 weeks, you could be staring at bumper crop but if no harvest 0.

For Klause I am truly glad you are happy!

And there is no point trying to guess your financial state because there are 100 and 1 variables even if we knew most of them. But in general at 70 % coverage and 3 years crop loss, if I know your area you had a few losses prior to this also so let's say 5 losses, not sure if your crop insurance is like sask but we have 10 year average 5 years of loss means coverge at 50% of what you grow and 70% of that 50% gives you 35% roughly income, of course take off your premium which will of course be high with that many years of loss. In just my opinion you must have absolutely nil for cost because living off 35% income not sure where anyone could keep going like that.

No wonder you are not in agrivation, it would only be a cost of accountants for you or your time if you do it yourself, right or wrong?

Those crops that you lost was it because you were a shitty manager or the weather?

Now having said this, interested to know Guys that had good weather and therefore income 5 years in a row prior to this year and now some will have 0 income, do you feel they deserve (because they paid income tax, LOL LOL LOL or otherwise) to be subsidized because they had good weather and you didn't?

Were they better managers than you to have a crop when you didn't?

Do you think those that have the margins in agrivation did they all of a sudden become poor managers because they are gonna have no income this year off the crop itself?

I realize you likely have a different perspective on the be happy thing and may not care if they get subsidized, because you are closer in time in terms of your family leaving a very corrupt and dangerous country, so your views would be more that it's just nice not to get shot at understandable. But some of us feel we're past that and expect that as normal, so let's get on with dealing with the level of corruption happenning here.

Your parents I assume left because they were in a system where only the priveleged with the inside of the gov and the crooks prospered and survived. If you spoke up you what got shot at?
Why is it wrong for us to say look just because of weather people are going to get and I am not sure everyone is aware but if they actually pay it there is going to be some massive agrivation payments to people that have had good luck 4 of 5 years prior (take the lag year out)this is taxpayer money and others are gonna get none.

I spoke with our accountant and of course didn't provide names but in those lentil areas there are guys with above 200 margins, some of them seeded very little. So let's say 50 bucks of allowable expenses they potentially could recieve 250 bucks x 2000 acres = 500,000 bucks and you will recieve nothing out of that program do you think that is right? I think your farm was 2000 acres.

Sask99 you still haven't told us what was your secret special deal with big sky that you came out so much better than all those other stupid farmers that got next to nothing. Sounds like the same secret deal you get from agrivation.

[rookie]

Some folks out there in cyber space will use there insults and foul language in the good times too ( saying the tough times are making me do it... tell that to your doctor...)

Just be careful doing it, its a bigger window into who you really are than you obviously think.

Some of you tipped your cards ... all the nice chat now won't cover what lies beneath and the social skills you actually possess.

This was all over some guy putting his opinion forward politely and several jumping all over him and with some offensive terms.

Use the rural issue page if you want to cry like children with violent characteristics, or ask the moderators to create one just for you and your friends.

Think I am full of it, go print this debate off and show it to someone else like your doctor, it just might get you happy pills or free counseling.

And if you want a piece of me, sent your name and address to the moderator, when they verify its true, I'll give them mine so you can have it, then, you can see what your made of ....

We are all facing dire times ahead and look to these pages for answers, incite and a little coffee shop socialization.
Divide and fall, or unite. This web site shows how big your world just got.

Oh and have a good day, the suns out. Good luck this fall.

[riders2010]

"you want a piece of me send your name" oh my isn't that mature, you should write a book on schitzophrenia. What's that saying never ask a question you don't know the answer to, never invite someone you don't know who's gonna show up!
The problem is some of you don't like when your extreme left and extreme right views are on display. So you avoid the questions and views and attack the language and on that language you are right it shouldn't happen, sorry but out in the farming community I'm sure you never hear those words, no,

tractor and combine buried, will you hear

My dear hired man, could please walk slowly over to that nice looking but quite costly in my opinion tow rope that is likely 50 nice feet too short, so that we could attach it directly to the lovely frame provided and we could gently pull this fantastic earth crawling combine out so that we can harvest this tiny but oh so thankful crop that sadly is feed.

Or would it be more common, GO get that f'n s--t rope that I got f-----d on bring it here clamp it anywhere on this g-d d----ed f------g combine so we could finish this s--t crop that's only costing f-----g money to harvest.

And yes out in the field is different than here.

[checking]

Freewheat.

I realize that I should not ask questions to perhaps answer your question, but this seems appropriate.

You asked the question: should you (we) abandon some of the highest historic producing land in western Canada, and just call it a marsh?

Well, what's your alternative should the weather not change? and

Should the public be required to support your area until the historic production returns?