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    #97
    Rider2010 (AKA Skhadenuf), for your information, I have been busy moving our 2009 crop around and "properly managing" our farm. I refuse to click email notification so that my blackberry gets filled with useless reply's from you! I don't phone my accountant for any of my posts, I understand the program. You seem to have all the time in the world for coffee, posting on this site and a quote from someone else on this topic, dog___.

    If you bothered to read any of my posts, I have expressed all along that your payment claim amount is never going to be more than approx 65% of your reference margin in real cash. The higher the margin the better but you need at least $140 in gross margin to keep your farm from losing money overall. $140 gives you about $90 to cover the non eligble costs.

    As far as the fuel comment, that's a small item in the differences between all farms. Our farm ran 12.48/acre last year, not bad with not all acres being one pass. Where's yours, and I'll bet some of the operations run over $20 because of size and "other reasons". Your farm probably has never demonstrated profitability, like it or not. You rant and rave pointing fingers at everyone else about your problems. I am sure that really helps your situation!

    No matter what political party, no matter what program, no matter what you try, you won't be happy. Your attitude sucks which negatively influences your management skills, you obviously farm in an area in which the land must be the shits as well. You have no intentions in trying and blame it on 4 years of flooding, the current goverment in power and whatever sad excuse you can find. At least others with similar circumstances can debate contructively.

    If it was a year from now, your Agristability application was filed and you have your estimated payment calculations in hand, and it was zero like you claim, I can understand your devoted rant. Not everyone knows how this year is going to turn out in the end until it has actually happened.

    Your fetish about Big Sky and allegations of share ownership, wow, good one! We have hauled tons of grain to Big Sky over the years, why wouldn't we sign the deal to deliver more grain instead of taking the hit. I will support them as long as they are in operation. Is it a good thing they went down? Of course not, but there is nothing that can be done. They way you complain, you will be next, how many people will you be "screwing"

    As far as Agristability, imagine one farm, one reference margin with a huge flat unprofitable 10 year history, capped per entity - yeah, they are going to get a real large pmt - Not!. The best the company could hope for is that they participated in the moth ball program and cleaned out a number of facilities.

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      #98
      Some people think this guy is the best.
      I think hes good.
      This song is real good.
      Time to start praying for sun.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZbiZxA9b5k

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        #99
        Are we at a hundred yet?

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          Not yet?......

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            Oh for god sakes somebody push us over the edge.

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              Well I will, just tried canola today, 13.8, may be under 12 tomorow - if so it's commin off. Got done the first 300ac w/wht today. No rain but the forcast is all over the map - on the crappy side.

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                HIT A NERVE AGAIN! Yah Baby aha aha that's the way I like it!
                I'll keep it simple for you!
                Go back read your posts or have your weiner accountant read it to you.

                How many posts did you brag oh my 160 margin we'll be alright.

                Then on other posts gee there really isn't much out of 160 margin.

                Well guess what are you lieing now or before or do you know anymore, or is Ritz lieing because I think I now know who is writing his speaking points because it's just as screwed up as you are.

                Jdgreen asked you as well what your secret sweet deal was, why did he do that? BECAUSE that is what you said, holy crap! And then the sweet deal turns out is a deal everyone else has? are you kiddin!

                Side by side managin or otherwise I'd kick your ass farm to farm any day everyday your a pencil pusher, bookboy can't wait till you flop and you will.
                All that land that the bank foreclosed on for a song, connections in fcc and acs and stole that land too, no one else got a chance to bid, sound familiar?

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                  Hit a nerve, its obviously the other way around...

                  I suggest you read "your" comments again. All I ever claimed is you need a minimum of $140. We are a lot higher than that.

                  If you didn't take the sweet deal, that's your fault. Don't spout off claiming farmers lost millions. You had a choice.

                  We don't need to hear about your ability to steal land and your huge debt with FCC and ACS.

                  Our farm has no debt, we have never dealt with FCC or ACS. Not sure why you continue making shit up.

                  Your "phone call" to the manager at LD will lead no where. Ever think that maybe I was driving for someone else that day?

                  Hands down, our farm has beaten yours and you will never catch us. You claim you have been flooded out 3 years in a row. (maybe you only farm 2 quarters around fishing lake and they are now under water) This is the first year we have experienced this.

                  We have existed over a 100 years and will continue for at least another generation. You will most likely not, especially if you don't change your attitude.

                  Thinking the government is going to come to your rescue is a false belief. Why do you think I don't bother to take time off to vote. I feel sorry for you and your family, and God help those that have to sit across from you at coffee row!

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                    There once was a fella that had privy to foreclosures on farmers then took the land for a song, connections with acs and fcc got him alot of land for a song most with no competitive bids, this is not about me man oh man! I don't deal with acs or fcc at all.

                    I never sold one bushel to that hog barn, just talking about neighbor that went broke because of it and helping jdgreen get some answers to the "sweet" deal.

                    Seen more than a few like you that had good weather and grew crops everything lovely but when the shit comes and it's started for you, still not even close to other areas, but it's started, they're gone in a flash.

                    I really thank you because instead of a few looking up this site there are actually quite a few that get a kick out of it, but the fire that is started not on here gets bigger, but it helps as I said when the harvest is done we'll see what's gonna take place.

                    Let's see cwb takes a year and a half for your money
                    Agrivation takes a year and a half if you are lucky, some guys waiting for 5 years for settlement

                    cwb won't send you a bill from 5 years past
                    agrivation sends people on a daily basis bills from any year up to 5 years.

                    cwb run by people that don't understand the farm situation.
                    agrivation same thing only people there not only don't know their job but some rude also.

                    The message is simple the program will work possibly for some that had good crops like you and you shouldn't need the money I agree so does klause and others.

                    For us that had weather disasters in the past no margin, we are screwed, go ahead enjoy thinking about that, it just shows and I promised not to swear any more but one more time you're an asshole to think that of us low lifes that had that happen to us. Feel better?

                    The wild card is the crop, there are those with no margin that seeded and had a crop so weren't too worried about the program but now with the weather reality is setting in and that is where the fire is gonna take off or quit. We'll see

                    The factor that determines your income most is weather, we need something that deals with that problem first not a program that supports those that have good weather, it's bananas!

                    Someone mentioned about suport for other industries can't remember who, think again there are billions not a few millions going to all those industries tax breaks, startup grants, employment subsidies, just doesn't get published by politicians and used as a tool by them.

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                      Rider2010

                      Why can't you respond post/like this consistently. Thank you for that.

                      My sincere appolgies for my comments against you and your family. Its not my character - definitely.

                      Your comments and the way presented are extremely relevant.

                      Again, not familiar with FCC type deals but people everywhere in every business are "leaked" info that is used to their advantage. Your situation you are describing is not/was not us.

                      Yes, I am in charge of finances for our operation, sorry I am interested in this stuff but someone has to take on that responsibility.

                      Its unfortunate your neighbor went broke because of the barns. I question how close they are operating to this point if this broke the camel's back. It could have happened to any business. We went through it with Neighbor seeds a long time ago. I totally agree its not right, rumor has it all trucks were fueled up at the co-op the day before the announcement. Again, everyone needs to move on, try and protect themselves as best they can.

                      I honestly feel for you if you are in an area of multi year flooding. Its hard to understand that what we see was possible but going through this year I am concerned about next spring like all on this site. It wouldn't be my character to openly call you a low life, I think you used this term in the topic about how farms manage themselves differently.

                      You are right that everything is a wildcard. Harvest will be a challege for all. I do need to stress that fact that everyone needs to wait until the year is done to properly evaluate their own circumstances. Some will fair better than others because of better crops, crop insurance coverages and program payments. Others may not be so lucky.

                      I don't mean to defend the program, I have always been trying to help others realize there are some good things about it. Many don't understand it or have any idea where they are at.

                      I agree somewhat that weather is the wildcard but not the only factor. There are hundreds more, luck included.

                      I don't tend to get caught up in politics, that's why I don't vote. I work for myself and follow the rules laid out. I definitely don't agree with auto maker bailouts and I still question the need for the CWB. On our farm, we sell CWB grains but generally not straight pool contracts. It seems to work for us. I fear that when its gone the Viterra's, ADM's and Richardson's will just step in taking the additional profit that may or may not be there without the CWB.

                      Agristability has the biggest admistration failure of any program ever designed. I would love to see something better. On the flipside, many producers (cornerstore/basement and stand alone accountants included) don't make an effort to ensure the program is processed accurately or have the tools/software to do so. The firm I deal with gives me that and I have not had the overpayment issues other experienced.

                      And for our Agristability payment for 2010, I don't think its going to be as big as you think for our farm and others with similar circumstances. Understanding this situation is the key. Yes we have a good margin and we carry maximum crop insurance and no livestock. With this and good/lucky marketing of 2009's crop or the value increase so far, our income earned for 2010 will not drop as much as you think.

                      Our seeded crops this year are all crop insurance yield claims and our average coverage at 80% is a bit over $200. You can't hold good crop insurance against us, its a 10yr historical ins we pay for. Even the frost of 2002 and 2004 we managed to get through with minimal claims. That's puts us in a different position then everyone else from crop insurance and Agristability's points of view. A lot of the off grade grain was held for many years and sold when prices recovered or we could blend it off. Again this was a management decision we made but helps us be in a better position.

                      Not everyone can be as fortunate.

                      Lets start off on a new topic and a new page. I enjoy good constructive and polite debate and I will contribute my knowledge if asked. Cause I'm the "nerd 99" as you once politely posted.

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                        So was this Mrs. Nerd posting this time or does Mr. Nerd have a an alter personality thing going on?

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                          Come on, that wasn't nice.

                          This is me, has always been the real me.

                          Split personality is the definition of a politician

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