Hows your "F - - KING" Day going!

[fjlip]

Probably, freewheat, but I am thinking the crop out there is NOT worth wrecking my machinery and stressing out over. If things don't improve drastically I'm willing to wait for crop insurance after snow and birds get rid of the evidence that there was a shitty crop in the midst of all the water holes!

[freewheat]

I hear ya fjlip. I'm just sayin' though.

[BreadWinner]

Checking when can I borrow your mower, I have a few cattail patches to mow down. Just how long does it take for the 2 ft of water under them to freeze hard enough to support machinery? Some people just dont grasp how wet it is out there, Im even having a hard time wrapping my head around it. From an arial perspective there is more water than dirt in fact most patches of dirt are just islands. By the way my day was pretty good other than the Riders falling on their faces.

[furrowtickler]

By god willie, good post. P.S. b/c the they have too, farm some more s/f, make it 200 1/4's - that will fix the problem.

[wilagro]

freewheat: In this area we have had over 18 inches of rain this summer. Does that sound like a "dry" area?

I still say that it is senseless to "ask for trouble" when trying to harvest obviously wet fields. Some people are brutes for punishment though...I see it all the time. Last week I saw three swathers working one quarter of wet soggy canola. The deep ruts they were making were ridiculous and the field had many holes where they had to pull each other out. Seeing those water-filled ruts, I couldn't see the logic in even attempting to work in such conditions.

[BreadWinner]

Hey Willy we have had 50 inches of rain now, does that sound wet?

[freewheat]

Willy, 18 inches is very dry indeed. Heck that is less than our normal yearly precip. We have had over 40. On land that was saturated in the spring. Does that sound wet to you? 18 inches we'd be laughing. We got almost 18 in August alone. My point is that your year this year is practically typical for us. What you fail to understand is there is no chance to get any dryer here anymore, so either you try to get it off, or you leave it for next spring, summer or fall, whichever season lets us back on the land.Its not like the water is still soaking in, or that it will dry out without massive tillage and sun.

[checking]

I like your humour, breadwinner.

Any time after freeze up on the mower, providing you do not fill the gearboxes with water while running through your dugouts!!!!!!

Let's see. A convection current of 39 degree water and 32 degee water ....., likely longer than it will take for your area to have its first blanket of deep snow. You're hooped - time to hibernate, and I believe you know it!!

I also had a pretty good day. I was out most of the sunny afternoon mowing lettuce swamp weed. You have to allow it to get away in order for it to suck up all the pothole water in a 25" area. 50", not going to work! The alternative would have been sprayer ruts that would still be filled with water, but that void of vegatation ground sure would have been fun to circle seed. It is now sprayed, mowed, and will be growing winter wheat shortly.

As for the riders, they deserved to have the hot water shut off in their dressing room, and being provided with moldy damp towels.

[checking]

Riders2010, I don't think your accountant nor you understand Agristability. Any farm with 200 margin, the best you could receive is 65% of that number (assuming participates in crop insurance and doesn't have a negative margin in 2010). The balance is the portion of the loss that the farm will have to absorb. Know your facts before you flap...then again, maybe you should just keep quiet about this area.

As far as you feeling of a secret deal with Big Sky, well obvious you and the other farmers you have insulted by called them stupid never had any grain in the pit when they went down.

Any farm with grain that was not paid at the time of bankruptcy protection received a portion through the cash settlement and a letter with an option to deliver grain a specific quantity in the future with a premium (I think it was 50c per bushel) added to make up the amount lost.

We agreed to deliver the additional grain and will be compensated as per the agreement.

[riders2010]

In the areas with lentils there are margins greater than 200, and if you don't have crop insurance you get your margin right, less this and that but not to 65%, your making up a situation to fit your argument, your the one that is trying to show how smart you are and when the facts show up in the equation what we know then is if you didn't know what you claimed you'd be a moron not to. Kinda like make sure you claim your personal fuel as such remember that earth shatterring revelation, it's illegal not to isn't it?
There you go Jdgreen the big sweet deal, bet you didn't know that, did ya? I think if I asked my 99 year old grandma she would know that one. What the hell were you so afraid to say that at the time it was discussed? Were you one of the government insider shareholders that pulled the money out before bankruptcy was declared, the grain is just a smoke-screen maybe?

But once more a GREAT BIG THANK YOU for posting, your saying what most of us know, the ones with smaller margins that's it your SOL. But now you've confirmed to those that are believing the RITZ comments that it will work is a myth.

Tell everyone here who is the LIAR you or RITZ because either the program is gonna pay or it isn't, because crop insurance alone isn't gonna cut it. That myth was the only thing keeping the political balls hanging as soon as the harvest is officially done for this fall look out!

[riders2010]

And by the way oh thou great brilliant one. The only reason they offerred the 50 cents was because there wasn't a farmer in the country that would have sold a kernal to them otherwise. That 50cents is gonna be paid out of their agristability cheque from not paying everyone in the first place did you follow that so taxpayers are on the hook for their bull!

[riders2010]

Why the heck don't you just phone your accountant for your response instead of making us wait while you run back and forth to his house to get your answers? Maybe install a phone in your washroom and you can kill 2 birds, he'll tell you how to do that job and get a response to the questions as well, now there would be some efficiency added to your farm maybe he can calculate that one out for agristability. I gotta go do some fixing.