Left-wing radicals/ Stewart Wells & CWB

[stubblejumper]

You will be able to vote yes or no when Ritz and Anderson grow a pair

[Fransisco]

No you don't get it. This farmer voting business is a smoke screen and it always has been.

[Kodiak]

Church, Stubble et al,

Farmers like me, and I assume you, are independent business owners and operators. Each of us with individual needs, goals, and family circumstances.

What I'd like to understand is this. Do you think that you should have a say in how my farm operation runs? Or put it this way; should I be able to dictate how you run your business?

If I want to buy inputs from an independent dealer, and you wish to purchase from a multinational, is there something wrong with that? Should we each be mindful of the other's preferences yet force each other to operate against our better judegment or individual objectives? Should we all vote on where our inputs are to be purchased, and all be compelled to act accordingly?

[cchurch]

How is any farmer independent when we have to grow certified GM crops at rip-off prices?

Get over the freedom ideology because you are anything but free.

[Fransisco]

Give your head a shake you are free to grow what ever you want.

You want to talk about ideology? The kookiest one is the blind notion that government can do everything better after it has been proven time and again that it just makes things worse.

[cchurch]

If the CWB forced you to grow wheat that cost $50/acre for seed and you could not save your own seed, would that suit your needs?

[northfarmer]

What are you smoking church. You make no
sense. We are free to grow whatever we want.
We grow the canola we grow because of the
agronomic value proposition. You are free to
grow the old op canola if you so choose.

We are talking about the freedom to market our
wheat like we do our canola, oats, peas, cattle,
etc.

You logic is flawed. You arguments are hollow.
Go drink some more of the kool aid.

We will be reelecting Vos in our district even
though Macklin and the friends of the Borg do
not like it.

Now it is time to get it done in the Borg districts!!

[Kodiak]

OK, I'll try again. Why do some farmers (Church, that's you and your colleagues) think it's OK to tell me how I must manage my business? I have no desire, nor do I think I have the right, to compel you to manage your farm in any particular way. Even if I believed that collective marketing has merit and brings me some increased value, should I be able to compel you to market collectively with me?

Maybe I’m wrong or missing something, but it won’t help me understand if you answer with nothing but a cryptic slogan or wise crack. To really understand the thinking behind this position, it would help me, and others I suspect, to have a well reasoned and rational answer.

[cchurch]

Stop drinking the kool-aid and your logic is flawed and hollow.

[TOM4CWB]

Kodiak,

Grain growers (as Stewie/Ralph/NFU define them)have protected the CWB.
CONTROL OF THE FOOD SUPPLY is #1 for the CFA.

And grain growers grow a big chunk of the food supply for livestock and supply management producers.

THERE IS A HUGE CONFLICT OF INTEREST HERE.

THE SIMPLE FACT THAT MANY LANDOWNERS WILL GET 2 OR 3 BALLOTS TO VOTE THIS FALL IN THE CWB ELECTIONS... TELLS THE GOODALE STORY.

Last night I was told by a landowner... it has already started with mail notification of multi-participation eligibility from the CWB.

THIS ISN'T ABOUT COMMERCIAL GRAIN GROWERS WHO MAKE THEIR REAL LIVING FROM GRAIN.

THIS IS ABOUT 'FOOD POLITICS' and power to control the food supply.

The last feed barley 'cash' GDC is proof. About a buck a bushel pooled... even though it was supposed to be cash.

Blame Goodale and the Liberals... they set it up this way in 1998.

The courts say we have no property rights... even though the Canadian Bill of Rights is a law that says we do in application of Federal Legislation just the same/valid as the CWB Act.

The Courts, Liberals, and non-commercial grain growers decide what the CWB does. NOT ME. The CWB will not send me a ballot... even though they absolutely know I commercially grow grain/wheat in District 1.

If anyone thinks this has anything to do with 'democracy'... they should think again.

So a landowner who rents his land out for over a decade gets 2 ballots...

And our farm that commercially grows grain on over 3000ac in District 1 does not get a ballot. Not 1 ballot.

[Burbert]

The open market grain prices SUCK rit now. I say go CWB go!!!

[tipsy]

Tom Tom Tom I don't know why you keep blaming Goodale and company. They are just like their liberal ag polices, old, out dated, not attracting any attention or interest.
You have to get up to speed Tom, you should be pointing your finger at your buddy, Mr Harper and his gang. They've made lots of promises, have had lots of time and opportunity to address this cwb issue. There is only one problem they just don't give a rat's ass.

[checking]

Tipsy, you are so correct. If the C, but don't do anything party, had wanted to legislate an end to this issue, it had plenty of time to act against a weak opposition that would never have called for an election based on such a piddling matter for the bulk of Canada's population.

Obtaining ballots are not the issue. Electing directors to the CWB is not the issue. Both are wasteful distractions. This is a jobs issue, and the only solution is a CWB job buyout lucrative enough to get our wheat and barley controllers on our side to be asking their MPs to accept the offer.

[Fransisco]

If you decide to grow conventional canola instead of GM no one throws you in jail. Same for corn, soybeans and any other crop. If you sell your wheat to someone other than the government(CWB)they do. That is a big, big difference.

[Fransisco]

burbert said, "The open market grain prices SUCK rit now. I say go CWB go!!!"

Hmm... lets put that one to the test.(Again!!)

<b>CWB fixed price contract</b> as of Friday's close <b>$6.50/ bu Canadian</b> using standard Manitoba deductions. And who knows when you'll get to deliver it.

http://www.cwb.ca/db/contracts/ppo/ppo_prices.nsf/fixed_price/fbpc-wheat-2010-mhrs-20100910.html

Down at <b>Berthold North Dakota</b> a farmer can get <b>$7.10 Canadian</b>(.96 dollar)for a spot price. Bring it all in right now and get paid. <b>Or</b> if you like they'll pay you <b>$7.29 Canadian</b> if you agree to deliver it <b>in December</b>.

Oh yeah those poor saps stuck in the open market are really getting screwed.