CETA

[wilagro]

TOM4CWB: How can you misinterpret information as you always seem to do?

Please READ the info that the NFU presents and try to understand the ramifications of what our sell-out government is trying to do. The farmer will even less control if this agreement is ratified than what he/she has NOW.

Why would we want to sacrifice our present rules,procedures and standards for those of the European Union and have a negligible increase in trade and at the same time allow the Europeans to dictate how our domestic trade is carried out. It is a SELL-OUT pure and simple. Stockwell Day is looking to earn brownie points for the Harper government but he has NO clue of what this agreement will do to our farmers and the farming industry. He is a rank amateur who will be sowing future dissent and IMHO chaos.

[FarmRanger]

We export lots of grain from western Canada.
The Canadian government is trying to facilitate that through trade agreements.
The NFU is trying to stop this.

Are the people at the NFU trying to damage the Conservative government or the western grain farmer or both?

[Fransisco]

Bang on Farm Ranger the NFU is a suicide cult.

[jensend]

as long as you're happy!

[Burbert]

NFU is the only group, that actually understands what is going on in Comedian Ag. The rest are fools, dupes, dopes, and shills working to further the goals of the multinationals and further rip farmers off!

[checking]

The core of the NFU is supply management, and the CWB. We all know this. Tossing aside their views on all issues due to their core value is plain folly.

It reminds me of one of our councillors who has stated that his hate for a particular ratepayer will automatically cause him to vote against anything that this person presents to council.

I see the same thing happening here with NFU ideas on why CETA will harm Canadian farmers. Ideas that would need to be really elongated to rationally tie them to their core.

What is so wrong with trying to protect the use of farm saved seeds? Just one of their ideas. Oh!, I know, it's a suicide cult that demanding it.

[Fransisco]

If you really think they're trying to save "farm saved seed" then all you have done is bought into their rhetoric without actually understanding their knee-jerk anti-corporate, anti-business, anti-property rights position.

Yes that's right your so-called defenders of farm saved seed are actually against property rights. You don't have to read a whole heck of a lot of their propaganda to see it.

[wilagro]

Fransisco: I see that you are "as full of it" as usual. Why are you knocking the NFU...after all it is made up of farmers...don't you like farmers?

[Fransisco]

wilagro the NFU is made up of born again Marxists, some of whom just happen to farm. Virtually every policy they cheer-lead for costs, or will cost, myself and the majority of other farmers money, as well as the further loss of our independence, our freedoms and our ability to run our own businesses as we see fit.

They ignore facts, do shoddy research, and use faulty logic.

They are against, trade, technology,and property rights, not to mention minding their own business.

Their raison detre is class warfare and the redistribution of wealth from those who have earned it to those who haven't.

The NFU worldview has played itself out in many countries all over the world throughout history with the same results every time, misery and poverty.

So no I am not a fan.

This CETA thing is their same old, tired, worn out fear-mongering, boogie woogie about freer trade. Their argument as per usual is 180 degrees off from where it should be. Basically the NFU is worried that trade will actually become too free between us and the EU when what they should really be concerned about is that it won't be free enough.

Farmers are traders wilagro, anything that frees up trade is good for farmers anything that further restricts it is bad for farmers. Once again the "farmer" NFU is pushing for something that would be bad for farmers. Frankly, I'm not surprised, its what they do.

[FarmRanger]

<i>NFU is the only group, that actually
understands what is going on</i>
If that's the case, then why are they always on
the side of restricting trade when western grain
farmers rely so heavily on trade for our
livelihood? Doesn't the NFU like western grain
farmers?