CETA

[grassfarmer]

Told you you'd be wasting your time Wilagro. Once most of these guys get done boasting who has the biggest machinery and the poorest crop they don't have much time left for thinking about what might affect their longer term futures. The power of their reasoning demonstrated in this thread doesn't give one much hope that they would be able to think it through to a logical conclusion anyway.

[wd9]

Hey Wilagro, what exactly is the problem with CETA? You ignoring the question because you don't know what it is and blindly follow the rest of the NFU sheep beause they say its bad, or are 'working' on it?

[wilagro]

wd9: If YOU can't figure it out it doesn't really matter what I think is wrong with CETA in the least. If YOU see nothing wrong with its objectives then go support Stockwell Day and be happy.

Im not even arguing...I just wanted you guys and gals to be aware of changes coming if this CETA goes through. Better than waiting until you get poll-axed and then sit up, rub your heads and say WTF happened.

[wilagro]

grassfarmer: Your right...a waste of time. I just provided the URLs but they want to argue...because THAT is what they do best.

[wilagro]

Darn, that should read you're.

[wd9]

Well i guess what i don't understand is that all of these perceived "loss of rights" which never existed in the first place is effectively in the PBR act already and was based on the contents of UPOV.

Canada respects the rights of the holders of innovation already both nationally and internationally. Many legal instruments exist for the innovator to protect their investment.

So ya Wilagro, i guess i don't know what this is 'taking away from the farmer' because it never existed in the first place.

So as a farmer, what am i losing?

[Fransisco]

Wilagro said, "If YOU can't figure it out it doesn't really matter what I think is wrong..."

Translation: He doesn't really know himself.

[TOM4CWB]

WD,

You are right.

Fear mongering and misinformation are key to this petition by the NFU.

THis is a NDP/Liberal ploy to give the conservative folks a black eye... when the Liberanos put the policies in place long ago. The Conservative Party had a vote in Montreal in 2006 on supply management; the party therefore officially suports the SM5. This is truly about the CWB single desk!

[grassfarmer]

CETA intends to prohibit:

Canadian federal, provincial or municipal standards that exceed international standards.

Government preferred hiring of locally owned businesses or services.

Government, municipal, school and hospital purchasing policies that favor locally or Canadian grown food.

How are any of these related to the CWB and single desk selling TOM4CWB?

One thing that you advocates of more global trade for western Canadian farmers maybe missed - CETA will NOT allow access for GM crops to the EU. The Europeans specifically exclude that in the agreement.

[charliep]

Actually Europe does allow GM or (accurately transgenic/genetically engineered crops) into their region. You just have to follow the rules. Under the original posting about PBR, Europe is among the most advanced in biotech (excluding genetic engineering) - perhaps why they are wanting to re-affirm Canada plant breeders rights legislation.

Notice you have stayed away from the original theme of plant breeder rights. On the issues you raise, wouldn't Canada benefit from better access to a market with 380 mln people?