Is A One Earth Mine Next?

[parsley]

wil and mus, I have an interesting question for a a pair of breathing hard sociaists who seem to be getting nowhere, :>))

Potash shares are owned by a lot of capitaist folks. They bought and paid for them. You own your farms.

To sell my farm to a reserve means it will most likely not come on the market again. You won't be able to buy it, will you.

Aboriginals do not have individual property rights. To sell Potash company shares to aboriginals also means they will remain in the reserve system, does it not? They will not come on the market again.

If Potash is sold to China, China does not have property rights, so ownership will remain state ownership.

For a capitalist country, which Canada is, to sell the Potash company to a communist country, which China is, probably means the average Joe in Canada will never ever have access to Potash company again.

State owners tend to swallow. How much reserve land did you see listed in the WP last week? Will your children have an opportunity to buy?

So capitalist sellers continually selling to communist buyers will eventually have nothing to sell. Correct?

Should Capitalists avoid selling to non-capitalists?

Everybody jump in to this one. It really is an important down the road farmland question. Pars

[bgmb]

Good question. I think in the long term all non capitalist entities are doomed so those assets will once again come available, look at farmland in Russia.

Also note the huge farms that existed when the west was just opening up. They were great on paper but did not work because of lack of risk management (no crop rotation or crop insurance). Again they were broken up and sold to the common man.

Worry not all great things come to an end.

[furrowtickler]

Good points bgmb, that rings true today as well - cer-can is not realy a rotaion agronomically but most very large guys are stuck with that due to time management, at least around here anyway. What you said is happening today with land going back to the "moderate" size farm. Everything goes in cycles or history repeats itself - always.

[wilagro]

I'd be willing to bet that if the potash industry is dominated by those Aussie interests, you the dumb farmer will be paying plenty for your fertilizer...that is the way monopoly control works.

I've seen it in the food industry time and time again and it is still going on. If the Canadian government lets this bid go through look out for fertilizer prices to rise to an unprecedented level. Western support for the Conservatives should drop proportionately.

[furrowtickler]

that's the way a controlled monoply is "suposed" to work one could say.....

[mustardman]

Parsley first off I own Potash shares as I own other Canadian oil and gas shares among others BUT having said that I would call myself a Canadian before I call myself a capitalist. I believe We as a company should maintain ownership of our MINERALS,Gas and oil and other non renewables. Manufacturing is a different entity.

Countries with only a small amount of the nat resources of our blessed country must Shake their head at how we have handed ownership to foreign interest. We are being HOllowed from the inside out.
I can look out my window at the Keystone Project and 590,000 barrels a day of raw crude will soon start flowing south to be refined,Why don't we refine it first?

Also don't forget that we are ALL Treaty people. We wouldn't be here on this land that by the way WE haven't settled the treaty for (only a 150 years late)

[mustardman]

That should read "we as a country should maintain ownership" (too many cervezas last nite)

[parsley]

mussy,

No cervezas for me, I've been on pure coconut juice with jelly for a day or so, keeping my head clear translating, sorting through potential European cancer clinics for a family member.

I have a question for you mussy.

Is a reserve "Canadian"? Or an entity unto itself?
I
f all the "Potash shares as I own other Canadian oil and gas shares among others", as you say, were slowly sold to reserves, would then, Canada or would the reserves "maintain ownership of our MINERALS,Gas and oil and other non renewables"?

Could the reserves ignore Canada, and sell all holdings to China?

And mussy, I am not being obnoxious with you, nor do I consider you with me.

For me, this is an area of rights/ownership/sovereignty quicksand that shifts so much, I don't know what is real or true.

Or right. Pars

[cottonpicken]

Anyone used their imagination on what is going to
happen to us a generation or two from now.

[mustardman]

Parsley good questions and I shall have to ponder on it .

I do know that if the treaties would have been settled Years ago we would have a better situation going forward