HAVE WE ACCEPTED??

[smallguy]

Why do I hear everyone on hear complain about everything from CWB, to government, gun control and everything else, but no one seems to mine someone like Bayer Crop Science charging us $450 dollars for a bushel of seed canola? Just wondering why that is so widely accepted?

[cchurch]

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[Fransisco]

Because when it comes to canola seed unlike the marketing of wheat and barley you actually have a choice other than not growing it.

If you don't think Bayer's invigor line is good value try dekalb or proven seed, or Brett Young or Canterra or DL or Viterra, or Cargill, or FP genetics,or dupont, or one of the open pollinated varieties like Cafe or Rugby.

But no thats not what you really want is it? You really just want Bayers Canola seed without actually having to pay for it.

[ry0972]

I think mostly Because even at those seed and chem prices and higher fert needs there is a GOOD chance of showing a PROFIT growing Canola. With "free" bin-run wheat seed, low priced chem most years and generally lower fert requirments It is VERY hard to make any amount of PROFIT after dealing with Midge, sawfly, fusarium, leaf disease and wet harvest weather.
Those newer high priced Canola varieties are out-yielding most wheats here as well.
The best chance of making $$$$ with a wheat crop here the last 4 years is to grow a high yielding soft white for ethanol/feed and avoid any!!! contact with CWB!!! .

[charliep]

Off topic but someone suggested canola acres will exceed wheat next year.
People grow crops that provide the best opportunity for profit and the best
fit into that farm's business needs.

[mustardman]

The Canola seed companies have done their research to know what the MARKET Will Bear. Don't worry if seeding canola at 2 lb per acre was the accepted practice they would charge $18 per pound for seed instead of $9 (and then buy it back for 22 cents)

[agstar77]

Charlie, you may be in for a surprise. There are a lot of disgruntled canola growers that are not prepared to shell out for high cost canola seed. Talk of a large jump in soybean acres in Manitoba. The agronomics are getting better and the saturated soil is also a factor.

[charliep]

Perhaps you are right.

Will note the canola industry set a target of 15 million by 2015
based on the Canola Council of Canada. The target is based on a
demand pull - what can be sold and signals from consumers.

Will it achieve it? Good question. Only know that canola ability to
provide market signals will be a driver of success or failure. I
believe the industry (not any one individual or marketing agency)
will achieve this target but that will only be known 5 years time.

Does the wheat supply chain have strategic targets based on sales
opportunities and consumer trends? If not, why?

[charliep]

On the strategic directionf for the industry, here is an opinion piece.

[URL="http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$Department/deptdocs.nsf/all/choice13307/$FILE/Moving-Wheat-and-Barley-Forward.pdf"]opinion[/URL]

[fjlip]

Even factoring in the costs, canola kicks a*s for returns on this farm over last 30 years. In this area, sounds like 70% canola, and then canola/snow/canola 2012. I'd guess 20 mil acres PDQ. Little wheat or barley at these $$ IMO! Pray/work for Conservative majority boys!

[ColevilleH2S]

Charleip

From Opinion..."Wheat and barley marketing options and opportunities on the prairies will have to grow, adapt and show value back to our producers.
No other organization in Canada is in a better position to make this happen than the Wheat Board."

Hahaha Do they make that statement with a straight face?

The way to turn around Wheat and Barley production in Canada is to get rid of the underlying problem, the Canadian Wheat Board.

[wd9]

Albeit a lot less families.

[wd9]

Smallguy, what did you pay per pound this year?

[TOM4CWB]

Smallguy,

We grow Nexera Canola.

We grow CSCO Canola.

We grow RR Canola.

We grow LL Canola.

We can grow Clearfeild Conventional Canola for conventional non-gm market.

All have different values and markets... and different premiums traded off the same base market with transparent global market signals.

I suggest the CWB has come a long way this election period in 2010... to start giving transparent global market signals.

AFTER the competition with the 'single desk' is over... after the election ballots are counted... WHAT WILL HAPPEN? Will our 'transparent global market signals' disappear like they have many other CWB election years???

[smallguy]

I believe the canola i bought the other day which was a LL, I paid after early discount worked out to be 8.90 a lb. The hybred roundup was a couple dollars cheaper, but when you take the tua in and two half litre sprays, it actually works out to be more an acre total than LL with one spray.