Ritz says CWB didnt do Inital paper work right to justify a increase!!!

[DogPatch]

The CWB might have error with a low initial, but they are adjusting it upwards as the markets adjust themselves. I don't think you would ever see a wide open system doing the same. NEVER will Cargill, and the other outfits do that....

Ritz is being a bully to be blaming the delay on the CWB.

[jdepape]

dogpatch:

re-read my post from before. Here - I'll make it easy for you:

The CWB first asked for the interim payments on Sept 7th. (Note, in the Aug 30th CWB Bulletin they advised they were asking).

They then pulled the request back and resubmitted on Sept 30th. We can only speculate as to why.

They could have let the first request go through and provided some early relief for farmers. They often request for multiple adjustments in any given year. But they didn’t. They pulled it back.

I'm told it typically takes 8 weeks to go through the Min of Ag, Minister of Finance and the Treasury Board - the CWB would know this.

It's currently week 5.

Oberg doesn't seem to know what's going on.
Korneychuk has the audacity to say in an interview that was posted online on Oct 30:

"The government hasn't done anything for two months on this request, so the wheat board is taking a lot of heat. Farmers think that we're not doing our job, and in actual fact it's the government that hasn't approved the request. We need to communicate what we're doing on behalf of farmers, both good and bad – it's not always going to be good."

He says the govt hasn't done anything on this for two months - at the time he did the interview, it hadn't even been two months since the original request!

Is he lying or just doesn't know any better?

You can say anything you like about Ritz - but on this one it's Oberg and Korneychuk that are stonewalling farmers interests here.

[charliep]

Doesn't an open market adjust prices daily to reflect new information
and the need to attract deliveries? Would an open market have two
boats in Vancouver waiting for durum and not have prices react?

I note that with government guarantees gone, the CWB (board of
directors and operations) will be able to set initial payments plus
adjustments. Perhaps we can all look forward to that day.

For what its worth, Ritz has very little to do with the adjustment
payment decision. About 3 federal departments and lots of
bureaucrats. A very mechanic and proccess driven system. The
proposal was made to simplify things but was rejected over the
summer

[RedRiverMB]

It is absolutely amazing that the facts and truth can
be laid out right in front of you and some of you
guys just can't see it or are so engulfed in the kool-
aid that you will not admit that the CWB does not
serve the interests of farmers with any premiums
but only discounts of your return and guys like
Korneychuk can fabricate a story and yet you go on
making up other excuses for them.
Take a hard look in the mirror today and ask
yourself why you are not a leader and why you allow
the CWB and its minions to rip you and your family
off, and if you can't, then try and do it for the
young farmers that are trying to start farming and
get ahead in the real business world.
Absolutely disgusting.

[charliep]

A chart that may help this discussion.

[URL="http://www.cwb.ca/public/en/farmers/producer/historical/pdf/2010-11/2010-11fpcbpccharts.pdf"]CWB [/URL]

[bucket]

dogpatch

What has the price of flax and canola done in price since spring seeding?

And what has the price of durum done since seeding, or for that matter since August of 2009???

The price of durum in the states is now well over $7.00usd.

[mbratrud]

DogPatch, do you grow anything other than wheat? Are your comments for real? I hope you are being sarcastic....

[TOM4CWB]

Dogpatch,

CWB Initials are a process based approval.... that Minister Ritz cannot get personally involed in.

To blame Ritz... is as slanderous as saying he didn't try to ammend the CWB election process we are now in.

This third rate CWB banana republic process... brought to you personally by the king of the CWB... Goodale himself... from the CWB ministers grave to you... with liberal pride!

[riders2010]

so how did ralphie have all the power to make these changes he's getting blamed for, and now this guy says he cannot change anything how are we at this point.

seems to me there needs to be a discussion about gov involvement in programs, if they are run effectively by the civil servants then fine but what happens when the program fails is it right for the gov not to be able to get involved and change the program.

[bucket]

Might be because of a minority government and Ralphie, Jackie and Giles like the cwb. Try changing it in that environment.

Now if the conservatives would fight an election over it it would be done.

Or if they said to the opposition parties " you like the cwb so much, its going to be implemented across Canada the tune would change pretty quick"

Unfortunately, the NO BALLS conservatives won't do it and the potash debate just won the day. The PCs don't want to hear from Wall for a while.