Election Blunders

[parsley]

seabass, that is exactly what the CWB shouldn't know. Which ballot is yours.

And their relationship with MNP is, in my humblest opinion, incestuous.

Is there a potential conflict of interest that could be uttered from the mouth of the 2Million Dollar Board CEO to MNP? :

"Identify the ballots, and tell the CWB election committee who voted what, so we can gerrimander the election boundaries and put Ranger and some of his pals in another district.

If you don't, we'll have to revisit who will do our auditing next year."

Now, of course, joedales, this is movielines material, isn't it? Can't be sued for thinking the outrageous, can we now.

But I'll bet AV'ers will read that line twice. Pars

[seabass]

Hate to be a conspiracy theorist but that was exactly what I was thinking. They then could have past voting tendancies and forward that to the wandering eyes of the CWB. Always was suspicious of there involvement and how they became the chosen ones. I guess thats a good question for Sandborn or D****r.

[parsley]

Don't call it 'conspiracy' theory. Maybe more like putting two and two together.

A lot of the gentler-Left in the USA are just beginning to realize the spending stick George Soros is wielding, means to try and defeat capitalism.

Sometimes two and two can result in a "Eureka" monment. Or not.

*****Ask questions.*****

(Maybe stubb is not paranoid after all, and maybe some of DepPapes Followers ARE paid by Multinationals, intent on anonymous meddling and funding.(John just spattered his coffee on his shirt. LOLOL)

Imagined or real, intrique in politics, is an exciting exercise. LOL Enjoy it. Pars

[kato]

I have no problem with APP, however, it's the concept that debt is a replacement for support that I have an issue with. Especially when that debt is a result of negligence that caused the need for support in the first place.

I know where we'd be right now if BSE hadn't happened. We'd be sitting on a paid off farm, with a minimal debt load, and who knows, maybe some money in the bank. Instead, we sit financially in the same spot as we were years ago when we were much younger, and farther away from retirement.

I saw an article the other day trumpeting the good news that calf prices are higher than they've been in ten years. Baby, let the good times roll! Ya. I can't imagine anyone else getting all excited because "Whoopee, we're getting 1999 wages now! Oh boy!"

We are in real danger now that the government is going to back off on us even more than they have, just because prices are better. This totally disregards the debt load that's leftover from seven years of grief.

As for the Agri-Vation program, last year our application was processed and completed in six weeks. This year, it's six and a half months and counting, and all they can tell me is that they've got the file in the building.

Good grief.........

[grassfarmer]

I guess Government pays out what the "cattle industry" asks for and the cattle industry organisations don't want a commie style welfare system - hell, they're the last cowboys - proud independent and resentful of Government involvement. Joke is the other players get the money - the packers to expand and update their plants, then a subsidy on top to help them process every cow.

BSE didn't cost me very much and wasn't the cause of the far worse depressed prices of a year ago. Try corporate piracy, captive supply plus the fact the industry was overbuilt in the days of a 66c/$ exchange rate - BSE or not things were a changing anyway.

[FarmRanger]

<i>"Identify the ballots, and tell the CWB election
committee who voted what, so we can
gerrimander the election boundaries and put
Ranger and some of his pals in another district. 
</i>

I don't know Parsley, but that's one heck of a
gerrymander to get me 300 miles out of the
district I should be in.

So what do I do with this ballot, and how many
more are out there?

[parsley]

"one heck of a gerrymander"

Seems to me like a dandy way to get rid of your vote!

By the time various voters are notched out, the results are quietly secured via an obscure committee who redesign boundaries, in secret, without having to divulge the process.

It's a proven method! But of course, ranger, I'm much too imaginative.Pars

[kato]

Can't talk for Alberta, but I can say that in Manitoba, BSE caused a lot of debt. It caused lost equity, and left just about everybody with no cushion against whatever else was coming down the pipe. Whatever else has cropped up in a non-BSE related way would have been dealt with, I'm sure of that. BSE helped accelerate a lot of the things you see as being problems too. Would MCOOL have gotten the traction it did if BSE hadn't happened? I doubt it. The dollar is about the only thing that I can think of that hasn't been the result of BSE.

Most Manitoba producers have no reserves left to cover anything out of the ordinary. Parts of the province are under water for the third year in a row, and it is more than a desperate situation for those people.

And they got an announcement today that help is on the way. Ya! The announcement was that they could defer income tax on the sale of their breeding stock. In other words, "Don't let the door hit you in the bum on your way out."

Don't forget fat cattle in this province aren't worth nearly what they are just about anywhere else. We've lost our processors, and were the most reliant on the U.S. market. On the radio at noon today, fats were quoted at 79 to 82 cents a pound.

Is it any wonder the bred cow sales around here are all fully booked right through to the end of the year?

[TOM4CWB]

Farmranger,

The 'hard to believe' part... is that this happens election after election.

You would have thought after the first mix up.... they would be more carefull in the next election!

It is truly amazing how many land lords get 2-3 ballots.

This year one wrote me a note complaining that this person only got 2 ballots instead of the normal 3 received in past elections.

IF anyone thinks this CWB election is 'fair' and democratic... they are smoking CWB wacko single desk wheat!

But wacky ralphie won't let anyone ammend the process....

There are a million an one ways to fix multiple ballots. After 12 years... we are no closer to making this democratic and fair... than when we began in 1998.

Goodale ...the wheat board minister that rules from the grave. And that is the way he wrote the CWB Act in 1998... SO HE COULD.

I wonder how many tonnes of wheat or barley Ralph sold in the last crop year to the CWB???