Foam Lake / Humboldt / Melfort Land

[JDGreen]

Breadwinner I have 4 colonies within 12 miles of my home base. Far as I am concerned you can have them all. They have pretty much quit coming around now that i have told them all to stay off my property and peddle their disgusting shitty meat, rotten potatoes, cozy kleenex covers and feather pillows somewhere else. I can buy it all at Walmart for less and it dont smell like Hutterite pig crap when I get it home. I have often wondered what some people really see in them though. So feel free to enlighten..

[BreadWinner]

I wonder if they would bother coming over to fight a fire on your land or yard if you had one break out? I wonder if you could not feed your kids who would? I wonder if one of your children wondered off who would come help look. I wonder who would help take your crop in if you were seriously injured or sick? I wonder if your land is worth more with all the colonies around you? Most of all I wonder what they think of you? They probably dont say a bad word about you or your family.

[parsley]

Klause, in our area, there are several waves of new farmers, some who have immigrated from England, South Africa and a lot have come from Alberta.

Young, keen and skilled.

Our area is very good to live in, lots of variety of enterprises, well educated, different farming specializations, and the opportunity to work in oil, and also work available for the kids at a provincial park in the summers. Music in the area.

I like my neighbors. Good people. Glad to have you farm around here Klause. And will help you if able.

You asked the question about lower land prices in Saskatchewan and I'll give you my take on it.

We've had too many years of socialist governments in Saskatchewan. They even went so far as to establish a government LAND BANK in Saskatchewan where the farmer could sell his land to a salvitating government intent on owning the land, to hopefully buy it all, and make the farmer a worker-tenant.

A communist China idea.

They bought a lot of land and then rented it back to farmers.

Socialist land sellers got extrememly well paid. If I tried to buy land, I had to bid against the Government.

It made people leery, and pushed the price of land downm

Thankfully, the NDP is gone.

But it cast a pall on farmland prices.

In my humble opinion.

And Klause, it was a very astute question.

Parsley

[JDGreen]

Breadwinner you are naive.

1) I have a fire department close by. If the house burns to the ground I will do a dance as i get new one from homeowner fire insurance. All my treasured files/pics are backed up and in safety deposit boxes. They would be asked to leave if they even showed up with a water truck.

2) It will be a frosty day in hell before any of them feed my children. You must think I just fell off the turnip truck yesterday. What makes you think I would EVER not be able to feed my children. Some of us are solid when it comes to the "what if" scenario

3) Harvest now thats a funny one . First I am more efficient/unit/person than any colony period. End of discussion not even arguable. I have money to hire REAL neighbors or custom ops. in this situation.

4)And no the land is not more valuable because of them. This is mennonite country we dont need hutterites to maintain land value.

5)Lastly I don't care what they think of me. I am not in a popularity contest with the local grade 8 graduates.

Once again please tell me why you feel they are beneficial beyond the worthless virtues you earlier posted??

[BreadWinner]

Hutterites are equal individuals just like you and me. They have strong religious beliefs that are being tested just like yours and mine. It is the uglyness of mankind that people develop such a deep rooted anger towards people different than themselves. I hope that in time you can learn to respect and value the people around you and the country you live in. It would be a pretty terrible place to live if everyone hated their neighbors as much as you do. and Klause if you have a move in mind I would be glad to have you in our neighborhood.

[BTOfarmall]

1) The Hutts are always the first around here to the fire. Reason being anyone with a fire truck $300 per hour, paid until you leave. Don't even need to unroll the fire hose as long as you are there kicking tires. RM. Foots the bill.

2) CFS will feed your little brats if you can't.

3) Please see JDGreen's answer. So true ain't even funny. I can't believe with the man power they have this is how they farm the land our forefathers broke & fought for in the world wars. Also they only help with harvest because they want your land when you retire.

4) Yes they make the land more valuable. Only because they say why hell the next generation will pay for it. So they pay for it out the ass & pass the debt on.

5) They might as well feel the same about me as I do about them.

Just stole 1120 acres from 2 different colonies this year. 5 year lease. Life is Good!!! Pay to Play!!!

[JDGreen]

1)I do value the people around me. As my post stated, I have REAL neighbors.

2) This is business and religion doesn't factor into any of my business. I am however happy my business doesn't deal with chronic problems such as closet alcoholism, child abuse, and piss poor womens rights.

3) Klause you are also welcome here anytime. You learn to compete or you will be forced out..

Still no reasons to why you so highly covet these leeches BW..

[grrrr]

Getting back to the original topic; The people I talk to in the Humboldt-Melfort area laughed when I asked about good land selling for $56,000/quarter. Try $156,000 for the best land, and not close to town and no colonies.

[SASKFARMER3]

Humboldt and Melfort are at 100000 to 160000 in melfort for sure. Foam lake is devastated.

[BreadWinner]

BTO our forfathers fought to protect the rights of minorities just like the hutterrites and stop the sensless slaugther of Jews. Our lands were never in need of protecting we went to protect and stop the invasion of Europe.We fought for the things that you hate most.

[Klause]

Once again, thanks to those that replied to my original question.

Pars, you made very good points, as usual


For those that said I was welcome in their neighbourhoods... thank you!



I'm only going to make one comment about Hutterites/Mennonites... And this is a bit long[er]

I live on the fringes of the prairies... people around here are... well uncivilized. They came here in work camps in the 20s. Many can't read or write. They don't like
"outsiders". We've been in Canada for 20 years.... we've gone through things most can only imagine... stores wouldn't sell us groceries. The RM conveniently "forgot" to
send out the tax bill for a few years to try and sell the land our from under us. We've had dykes built downstream of us. Culverts plugged with round bales. Hydro lines
cut. Cows shot. Equipment vandalized.

Now, I neither support nor oppose the whole colony thing. Nor do I support or oppose Mennonites. This is a great country with many freedoms and liberties that
people here take for granted, but those in other countries envy. ... When I read BS like from BTOfarmall, I get very angry. When I hear that Hutterites are evil... I get
pissed also. They have their way of life, and it's not for us to judge them on how they live.

I would not have an issue having anyone in this thread (except BTOfarmall) as a neighbour... Simply, I'm not racist and don't care who my neighbor is... I'll be the first
to help someone who needs it, and my friends can attest to that.

Getting back on topic, could someone look at this, and tell me why it's "cheap"?
http://lanerealtycorp.com/feature_sheets/ne_humboldt_159b.jpg

I guess what I'm asking, is... if I put down $30,000, finance $59,000 over 15 years, can I pay that off with what the land produces, or will this simply not work (and
thus the reason for the land being "cheap").

What are cash-rents like??? I chased a quarter to $75/ac/yr and still didn't get it... and the kicker is the reason it went high was that the land around it is good... the
quarter itself is in organic hay.

[grrrr]

Klause-I had a look at that particular land on google earth. I counted at least 15 clumps of trees scattered throughout. Also there are as many sloughs, and the surrounding land is much the same. I would say it is far from being the better land in the area. The assessment is around 55,000. The better land is assessed at 75,000 or higher and is greatly sought after. Hence prices are north of 140,000 for the best. Also rents this past spring were $60 / acre. Not sure what they will be for the coming year as some got burnt at that price.

[Klause]

I definitely see your point, grrrr.

I'm trying to compare apples-to-apples...

I.E. have a look at this:

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Rivers, Manitoba&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Rivers, Division No. 7, Manitoba&ll=50.17518,-100.315046&spn=0.016051,0.021243&t=h&z=16

Land like that routinely sells for $155,000 to $175,000 / quarter.


This is what gives me this whole "why" question... Is that area of SK always wet? Does it freeze often? I can't believe the only reason is because of competition... if the land is good, and not as expensive, wouldn't guys move in, buy land, and thus cause competition???

[bgmb]

There is no way that quater would bring 150,000.

Maybe 70,000 as there is only about a 100ac a quarter broken. With drainage laws the way they are right now its fairly hard to improve.

[grrrr]

Call me ol'fashioned but I believe land should provide enough income to pay for itself.