Climate Change Schemers in Mexico

[parsley]

You mean like jobs like despatchers buying windmills made in Europe, shipping them over here, and shutting down cott's oil wells and shutting down the coal-fired grid in Estevan?

I have to think about that one

Oh ya, I'll have tally the number of men hired for rationing electical volts when it's calm out. Lotta new jobs there.
Pars

[parsley]

I'm practicing my diplomacy skills.
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So maybe other AV'ers contribute thoughts when I "think" a polite spell. LOL Am I improving, mussy? Pars

[furrowtickler]

Long term climate models follow a pattern like eveything, everywhere - we are heading for a cooling period, end of story. Wether you like/dislike Dr.Tim Ball or not, he is right - based on facts 0n ice core samples and sun spots a cooling off period is coming.
The whole global warming thing is such a crock of shit in the big picture. What has happened in the last 100 years is worthless. The climate changes everyday all over the world - every minute - every day - every year...... based on sun spots snd 'very' long term cycles.... get a grip everyone!!!
It has frick all to do with farming pactices - or industry for that matter. More bad stuff goes into the atmosphere with one volcano than 100 years of man made 'anything' !!
Pollution control is the real dirty word that no one admits is the real problem facing humanity itself.

[chuckChuck]

Parsley,
Sorry to hear that you are down on science and research. Having dissenting views and results is a normal part of science. Science driven by corporations that have a product to sell or an industry to protect is certainly suspect. But basic research that trys to explain the natural world and how are bodies work have led to some very important discoveries. Making the generalization that all science is biased because of its' funding source is just wrong. Most of the climate research out there is paid for by tax payers. Scientists and science are not perfect. What would you suggest as an alternative to science?

[parsley]

Witchcraft

[parsley]

Isn't everyone just a little twitchy about 'studies'?

Chucklers:
Don't eat eggs.
Eat all protein all meat diet
Avoid carbs
Eat carbs
Growth harmones won't effect anyone.
Mercury fillings are benign.

You know what I mean. If you don't you should. Pars

[chuckChuck]

Pars,
You are right about conflicting studies in some areas of research. But when the overwhelming majority of climate scientists support the position that the climate is becoming warmer because of human activity then perhaps we should pay attention. Of course there are dissenting opinions. Some based on politics, some on science. For decades the tobacco industry vigorously denied a link between smoking and lung cancer. We know why. Was there argument based on sound science? Apparently not. But they invested heavily in denial and discrediting the science that showed a link.

No matter what we do, fossil energy sources will eventually be replaced by other sources of energy. This will reshape the world we live in. Unfortunately any substantial increase in fossil energy prices will push many economies into recession or depressions. Cheap energy has powered our increase in standard of living. China is increasingly using more and more energy as their standard of living increases. What will happen when energy resources become more difficult to secure. There is alreay a backlash against China's interest in our oil sands.

[parsley]

Well, those "overwhelming majority of climate scientists" also had difficulty not recognizing, but telling the truth.

"energy difficult to secure" : Hey, chuckiecowboy, there is enough oil in the Bakken underground, throughout the Dakotas and Saskkatchewan, to look after Canada's energy supply every year until lilacs decide to not bloom.

Pars

[parsley]

Do you know who is leading the orchestrated charge against the oilsands? A well funded group.

Georgie Soros is a name you may want to google. Pars

[Burbert]

Comedia is a rogue state right now. It has a phoney carbon market, which is doin nothing to solve any pollution problems. Fort Mcmoney looks like a moonscape, what a total fnnnn mess. Schemmers should plan a meeting there, and focus the world's attention on that ongoing disaster. Phoney reclamation plan filed by multination oillys, will ultimately end up haunting Comedia fer years to come. PC's see nothing butt progress, butt they are an fnnnnn joke 2, they just don't know it either....

[parsley]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-01/pelosi-s-climate-change-panel-will-become-casualty-of-republican-takeover.html

[Happytrails]

Just returned from Winterpeg this morning. Global warming seemed absent.

To address the issue of whether to trust the scientific method or not I have some examples.

1. The study undertook to determine why banana peels are slippery that concluded that they really are NOT slippery. Hearsay.
2. The autopsy that failed to find the cause of death of the decapitated body. Hearsay.
3. The nameless parties who convinced Jack Howell that 10 billion bushels of corn in a pile would be 10 miles in diameter and 4 miles high. Thats actually 10 TRILLION bushels which would take roughly 1000 current U.S. crops to amass. Heard it with my own ears.

The point of this is that scientists are people and we are notoriously fallible. So when my fellow (wo)man says give me your money to save the earth I'm not buying. It is possible that they would use it to worse effect than I.

Pars, you tolerate the intolerant admirably. HT