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    #25
    I understand they way you think about the CWB.
    But what about those who don't view it as a democratic organization, but instead view it as a commercial one? Do you understand how they may be frustrated and don't see director elections as a legitimate or effective way to manage change or enhance the profitablity of their farm business?

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      #26
      Sorry, my questions above are addressed to grassfarmer. Interveening posts may have made that unclear....

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        #27
        @ parsley,

        How do I fight then good sir? I understand that the decision to grow non-board crop ultimately backfires in the end, but as a young farmer in a district that obviously is quite pro-CWB, is there another way to go about this?

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          #28
          Regardless of what you think about the CWB most farmers trust a farmer board of directors controlling a marketing organization more than they do a public or private corporation.

          The CWB system has its flaws, but at least you get an opportunity to change how it operates. Good luck influencing Viterra, Cargil, Bunge, Monsanto, Bayer, Agrium etc.

          How many of you have an opportunity to be on the Board of any major international company? Unless you come from the business elite with money and connections your chances are almost nill.

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            #29
            Chuckles most farmers trust the board of
            directors. Yea what a crock of Shit. Most
            of these guys get their first check and
            their brain shuts off.
            Why cant people run who have a pot to ps
            in and say what they mean.

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              #30
              chuckChuck,

              You said:

              "Regardless of what you think about the CWB most farmers trust a farmer board of directors controlling a marketing organization more than they do a public or private corporation."

              I trust Cargill, Pioneer, Viterra, Bunge, Providence Grain, Westlock Terminals, Great Northern Grain, Sunhaven Farms, Permolex, Lougheed Seed Clearners, Holmstrom Seed Farms, Galloway Seeds, Master Feeds, Federated Co-operatives, UFA, Market Masters, Champion Feeds, and every other business that we have sold our produce to in the past years.

              NOT one of these businesses have ripped us off...

              ONLY the CWB... because of the monopoly.

              And our farm did not even vote in this election... even though we grow grain on over 3000ac in district one.

              Vote on integrity of the CWB and the 'single desk'?

              The 'single desk' only strips integrity away from the CWB... it has never added on ounce of good will or value to/for our farm. The CWB 'monopoly' only depreciates the CWB and binds, steals, and deceives folks who know this is wrong but can not change a law that is corrupt and disgraceful.

              YOU are simply wrong chuckChuck.

              GET over it.

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                #31
                Chuckles,

                I note the March 2011 Canola 'single desk' ICE price is at $573/t Canadian!

                Can you imagine if the CWB 'single desk' monopoly got its meat hooks into Canola... what the CWB price would be?

                $400/t?

                A $300/t Canola initial?

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                  #32
                  Kodiak, yes I understand the frustration as I've been in similar situations myself on other issues. The way to change things in my opinion is to convince your fellow producers, fellow voters that your arguments are the right ones. Not voting (not you personally) then trying to get the minister to override the majority is not the democratic way to do it in my book.

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                    #33
                    Grassfarmer,

                    Just in case you forgot;

                    The 'majority' includes Quebec.

                    This whole system of BC, Quebec, Ontario, and Maritimes voting on what the CWB should or can't do is not democratic, reasonable, just, or moral.

                    YOU are WRONG Grassfarmer.

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                      #34
                      No TOM you are wrong - keep it simple and honest - the only people voting in this election were your fellow grain producers in the appropriate zones in the prairies.
                      Talk of changing things politically in Ottawa is a different issue. Kodiak and I were discussing the issue of producers not voting in this election.
                      If you decided not to vote although you were eligible don't blame the results on guys in different provinces that weren't voting. That is sheer fantasy.

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                        #35
                        organic producers have Flaman, Korneychuk,
                        Stewart and any others I missed?

                        So, boys, we don't have many numbers! How
                        come folks vote for organic porducers?

                        Must be we have earned the art of sweetalk,
                        what say Tinker?

                        Pars.

                        Lol

                        I am. Devlish tonight cott! Better hide. Lol

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                          #36
                          Tinker,
                          I guess you will think, if you are consistent, that it
                          is immoral that a ragtag bunch of organic
                          producers should be representing conventional
                          farmers.......

                          I could not resist that one Tom, lol
                          Yer pal pars

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