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    #41
    From what I can see this election result is no different than all the others with the clear winner being FARMER APATHY.

    Just as in other elections candidates who supported the monopoly got more votes than farmers who sat on the fence.

    But guys, reality is Director elections are just that, elections for directors, they are not a plebicite on the popularity of the cwb or support for or not for the monopoly.

    Most farmers see it that way. The reason it was 42% turnout was it's almost impossible to make an informed decision in a vacuum of polorized rhetoric. JDePape made a valiant effort to bring some real issues to light but unless your "tuned in" your not going to get the message.

    The previous director for zone 9 (my district) was Bill Nicholson (sp?)the only thing I knew for sure was he was a hard line monopoly supporter. I have zero clue whether he was a competant director. He may have been but who would know. I have zero clue whether directors do influence policy or if they just rubber stamp managements policies and decisions?

    So to this end I did vote but I realy didn't think it mattered one way or the other who won.

    True change can only come from Ottawa and I just hope Ottawa doesn't put alot of stock in these elections to guide them on policy. There are just too many REAL FARMERS tuned out and turned off by this process.

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      #42
      wd9:

      Just like you said to Fran, you can't speculate how the rest would vote. All we can say is the majority of <b> those that voted </b> support the CWB.

      OR - only 24% of eligible farmers that support the CWB felt it was important enough to vote. (Where were all the other staunch CWB supporter?)

      I think it's safe to also say that all the farmers who didn't vote didn't think it way important enough to do so. They may support the single desk or hate it - either way, they just don't care. Just like all the people that don't vote in provincial or federal elections.

      I wonder how many staunch CWB & single desk supporters figured it wasn't important to vote?

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        #43
        You are exactly right jdpape. And by the same token:
        OR - only 17.7% of eligible farmers voted for "change" candidates.(Where were all the other STAUNCH "change" supporters.)

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          #44
          You are exactly right jdpape. And by the same token:
          OR - only 17.7% of eligible farmers voted for "change" candidates.(Where were all the other STAUNCH "change" supporters.)

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            #45
            dmlfarmer,

            I would be VERY interested to know how many CWB single desk supporters voted 2,3,4, or 5 times... and how this compared to choice voters.

            I know of choice voters that used their full 'franchise' in the past... that only voted ONE time in this most recent election.

            This election is so corrupt I don't know how anyone can take it as a serious indication of anything!!!!

            How many 'single desk' supporters have multiple permit books???

            In our case we had land covering close to 9000ac... and not one eligible vote according to the CWB.

            I refuse to be dishonest to get a CWB vote... which is all multiple permits holders and suffixes are... dishonest cheaters.

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              #46
              All i'm saying is if i was for example an urban MP i wouldn't be worried about too much pressure to change the CWB cuz the majority of the farmers want it. MP's hunt in packs and rarely eat their own.

              Change in property rights for Western farmers needs to come about in a very different way then the attempts of the last couple decades.

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                #47
                BY the way...

                THe CWB itself is totally responsible for this being a corrupt election... and encouraging this insane system of encouraging voters to vote multiple times.

                I get ribbed every time by neighbours who have multiple ballots... and laugh and wave them in my 'face' with a grin on their own faces!!!

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                  #48
                  wd9

                  Do the MP assume common farmer direction on an issue like the CWB or do they just hear a lot of noice/people yelling at them? Had someone tell canola's industries advantage was it could speak as one voice across the whole supply chain when it went to Ottawa.

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                    #49
                    WD9,

                    It was a proud day for Canola growers on Dec 10/10.

                    Both the EU and EPA carbon foot printing submissions were approved... Canola Bio diesel has a lower footprint than Soy... and meets EU requirements.

                    It did not take 10 years to move forward.

                    Congratulations to the Canola COuncil of Canada and provincial grower organisations for fast and effective service to extract the maximum value for our canola through the ICE Canola futures 'single desk' market!

                    God bless you and Canada!!!

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                      #50
                      I am Lulu working at the CWB.

                      I would form a quiet gerrymandering committee.

                      I would have access to the election voters' List.

                      I would re-design it.

                      And I would selectively talk to loyal single desk voters to "suggest" to other single desk voters to change their place of voting.

                      I would count all migrant votes coming in from all other districts.

                      You see, I would have access to the farmers who changed the districts they voted in.

                      In a lot of districts, I could "re-design" the results.

                      Now, I could also send a ballot to a few donkey choice farmers saying they now vote in a different district. They usually don't yap back like the Parsleys of the world.

                      I would also "forget" to send ballots to some choicers. They'd get on their high horse, or better yet, not even notice.

                      I'd make sure my "LOYALISTS" are 'looked after. You know,.... family trips first class to the annual CWB shingdig with special steak and lobster nights out and free boozey stuff.

                      Lulu isn't dumb, and she has an unlimited unquestioned budget.

                      Pars

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