Detailed numbers on the election

[wd9]

Exactly FR. IT would be the acid test of where farmers want this industry to go because it would be put your money where your mouth is or shut the **** up. I'm sick of the arguments.

[parsley]

Organics went their own way, set up their own system, established a market, helped other growers, and fostered buyers. We looked positively ridiculous in the beginning, didn't we.

I believe that qualifies for what you term 'putting your money where your mouth is'?

Where I am right now, out of Canada, the fridge is packed with organic food. Every kind imaginable, and they CHOSE to buy it.

Going to spend the weekend with a Boston banker, so I will inquire about agriculture, food, and money, without any words being guarded. Pars

[wd9]

Yes it does Parsley. Boston is cool, have fun.

[parsley]

You realize, wd, by agreeing with me, that you have provided me with a reason to NOT, as you so modestly state, "shut the **** up". LOLOL. Not often you fall headlong into a pitfall. LOLOL
Pars

[FarmRanger]

...<i>"it would be put your money where your
mouth is or shut the f^<€ up. I'm sick of the
arguments"</i>

There may be many on Agriville that are sick of
the arguments.  Although I've yet to see anyone
refute Jdepape and others, so up until now, its
not much of an "argument" going on.  
Unfortunately Agriville represents a pretty small
minority of farmers.  

I still run into lots of people who don't have a
clue as to what the arguments are, and which
ones are valid, or why.  If they don't know the
facts, how can they make an informed decision?  

So no, I'm not going to shut up until I see a
better reason than the mythical single desk
premium to quietly surrender my property.

[TOM4CWB]

FarmRanger,

Are we going to push the AB Gov into a Cereal Commission to provide marketing Choices for Wheat and Barley?

What about the SK Party taking halfers with us... we can leave MB to freeze over!

[wd9]

Sometimes you gotta eek out the comments.

Now maybe this should be another thread but here are my thoughts.

Wheat and barley is around 25 million tonnes. Close enough for budgeting. Create cereal commissions in each province with them including white wheats trits etc. Create a Cereal Council of Canada, ok so maybe the name needs changing so it isn't CCC. On it have seed development like WGRF, Ag canada, breeders private ones, chem, farmers, exporters, marketing agency, processors, pasta and flour makers, etc. A strong board that can keep the CWB from running the thing.

Use the same checkoff like canola, a buck a tonne, and bring this industry up to snuff where grading, seed development, shipping, marketing produces a product that works. Stop the checkoff thru the CWB. Like canola, exporters and processors pay $0.XX per tonne.

Yearly budget of $25,000,000 dollars that is refundable provincially to farmers. Now here is where the money where your mouth comes in. Past fear has always been any commission would solely spend all the money to do away with the board. If in fact 80% of the grain is grown by the farmers that would enjoy property rights again and want to be in charge and enjoy a thriving industry like canola, put your money where your mouth is and invest in your future. Or shut...

Isn't it time we pulled the cereal industry out of the 60's? Thoughts???

[wd9]

Or maybe i'll just start growing salvia divinorum and not worry about wheat anymore.

[TOM4CWB]

wd9,

I vote we subcontract out the Job to the Canola Commissions and Council.

[FarmRanger]

I like the idea of a wheat commission and see
real achievable benefits; canola is good model.  
The stumbling block is the single desk bottleneck
in the supply chain.  A voluntary CWB could fit in
well as an industry partner.  I have serious
doubts about a mandatory CWB though.  As long
as you have this link in the chain protective of it's
perceived turf, and quite able by law to do so, I
can see problems with a wheat commissions
effectiveness.

As long as there is no open market, I can only
see one of two things happening.  Either the
CWB has control of the commission, or there is
war.  Best case scenario is a short war, but a lot
of things can get wrecked in a war.  I think the
first step should be getting a voluntary system,
even if it was just in Alberta at first, and then
create a wheat commission shortly thereafter.

Then again, it's late and I could be wrong, but
thats the way I see it right now.  Definitely worth
more thinking about though. Another thread
perhaps?