Canadian Cereal Commission

[wd9]

Pars said: "Handing over legislated marketing power to government is not an act of sanioty if you believe in the free enterprise system."

What on earth are you talking about? This has nothing to do with government. Its an industry wide council to promote cereals, run and funded by the industry, if it wants it. No clones, no duplication. Has nothing to do with government.

If flax growers don't like what they are doing, take your money back. Its called voting with your wallet. The best kind of voting out there.

[gustgd]

Great Idea
Where would you start?

Keeping everything under the provinces is a good idea, legislation is already in place. Trying to get new legislation drafted, passed, proclaimed would take longer than I think anyone who desires progress wants.

Problem as I see it and FarmRanger has already identified is the left controls cereals through the CWB.
The list of left leaning groups is long even if they are all the same people.
CWB
NFU
Alberta soft white white wheat
commission
the CFA and their spin offs WRAP, Keystone, APAS.

On the right we have The Western Canadian Wheat Growers, Barley Growers, Alberta winter cereals commission, Grain Growers of Canada.


It seems like many of the other commodity groups like the pulse boards, Canola commissions, Oats commissions some The other Winter cereals groups are all sympathetic but don't want to get tied up in the war that would ensue.

There's more but I'll wait.

[parsley]

Not done with you yet, wd......lol, but then you didn't expect I would be, did you now? LOLOLOL Want to have a peaceful Christmas or a good scrap? You seem like you'd be a little more fun when you're feisty. LOLOLOLOL Pars

[wd9]

Scrap would be good, but what i was really after on this post was ideas and solutions for our dwindling cereals industry given other crops understand the concept of: if you sit around and whine, nothing happens, only more whining.

[charliep]

Perhaps Parsley can help us understand how research and development should be funded to create a perenial wheat variety for the organic industry with applications to conventional wheat.

[TOM4CWB]

Charlie,

The 'service indusrty' couldn't extract a premium out of us growers... if we didn't need weed control or to replant each year!!!

If they had to count on the CWB alone...

[parsley]

Ah, charliep, I see you are game to jump into the ring. LOL Considering you are such a diplomat/gentleman, I assume it's understood I never kicked the habit of biting; you're still game?

Presently, I rock, but the rest of AV'ers should feel free to discuss an additional organization in each province and some additional federal organizations and more $$$$$$$$$checkoffs.

Don't you just love arbitrary checkoffs? They are so, well, uh, venezuely-Canadian.

Dip, dip,
Take a tip
From the pulse set
Who nip
At your cheque
What the heck

Dip, dip
Take a tip
From the Board
Who nip
At your pools
They're abhored.

Dip, dip
Take a tip
From a plan or scheme
Who nip
From your bins
As a team

Pars

[charliep]

Perhaps you are right. Also could be projects I am working on and need to have ideas challenged/put forward.

The question to me for the new year (brain about to go into Christmas hibernation) is how the process Canada uses to actually do (including funding) market development and R&D/commercialization. Who in the supply chain sets priortities. Who in the supply chain funds. Who in the supply chain measures success.

I will note our competitors (US, EU, Australia, Argentina, eastern Europe) each have different models. Some are being very successful. The results are a competitive advantage for their farm community relative to other parts of the world in general and Canada in particular.

On the organic front, I notice the following in food navigator.

[URL="http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Financial-Industry/USDA-to-offer-organic-producers-conservation-funding/?c=jYz%2BwZTNAeWvzGyHWtGyCg%3D%3D&utm_source=newsl etter_daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Newslett er%2BDaily"]USDA[/URL]

[gustgd]

This one talks of Bayer and the corn huskers teaming up to breed Wheat.

http://www.seedtoday.com/articles/Bayer_CropScience_Signs_Wheat_Breeding_Collaborati on_with_the_Univ__of_Nebraska-102560.html


This one talks of how excited they are in North Dakota to have Limagrain now entering wheat breeding for US producers.

http://mobile.dakotafarmer.com/main.aspx?ascxid=cmsNewsStory&rmid=0&rascxid=&args =&rargs=9&dt=634285195346552000&cmsSid=44773&cmsSc id=9

Now a good question would be what is keeping these big bad multi-nationals from the Canadian market?
hint it's not just the CWB.

A better question. Is that a good or bad thing, and what should farmers do?

[charliep]

A quote from this week's emalt that somehow seemed relevant to this discussion. Perhaps the first activity (not an expensive one) would be to get the supply chain talk about what needs to happen in the cereal grain sector.

"Obstacles are those frightful things you see when you take your eyes off the goal."
Henry Ford

[parsley]

"The Saskatchewan Flax Development Commission, established in May 1996, represents Saskatchewan's 15,000 plus flax producers. A check-off system (mandatory but refundable) enables the Commission to support research, communication and market facilitation activities to promote and enhance production and value-added processing of flax in the province"

Why should this NOT be voluntary?

What sort of people take the money and then tell you to apply for it back, and then make it as difficult to do so

[parsley]

"The Council's mandate is to develop and support markets that will lead to increased Canadian flax production and exports of flax and flax products."

How about a mandate works in the interest of producers?

[parsley]

Board of Directors


Terry James
Chair, Board of Directors
Canadian Grain and Oilseed Exporters Association (CGOEA)


Ray Elliott
Crushing Industry


Jane Goodridge
Feed Industry

Rob Meijer
Chair, Finance Committee
Canadian Grain and Oilseed Exporters Association (CGOEA)


Brian Johnson
Chair, Member Relations Committee
Director at Large


Garvin Kabernick
Chair, Research and Technical Committee
Manitoba Flax Growers Association


John McLean
Observer
Crushing Industry


Gordon Rowland
Director at Large


David Sefton
Chair, Communications Committee
Saskatchewan Flax Development Commission (SFDC)


Lyle Simonson
Saskatchewan Flax Development Commission (SFDC)

Brennan Craig
Director at Large
Viterra


Justin Sugawara
Observer
Federal Government


Venkata Vakulabharanam
Provincial Governments (3)


Michelle Vandevoorde
Crushing Industry


Richard Wansbutter
Vice Chair, Board of Directors
Canadian Grain and Oilseed Exporters Association (CGOEA)



Here's your National B of D for Flax.

Yes.

What do they get paid?

How accountable were they when Triffid bit you in the derriere?

Did any pone of them get fired?

How much more money have they gotten for farmers per bushel? Or are they mereley expecting you to grow more bushels to bank profits?


Look at these government bloats:


Justin Sugawara
Observer
Federal Government

Fire him


Venkata Vakulabharanam
Provincial Governments (3)

Fire him.

Why in the world do you think Government bloats represent a free enterprise system. Which farmer put them into their position?

Just a few observations before I go rock.

Pars

[wd9]

Nothing wrong with the mandate if actually achieved. A strong market for flax means opportunity for farmers too.

Parsley, how does this apply to a cereal council?