seeding plans 2011

[BreadWinner]

Wet late seeding plans:
Seed canola till June 5 then seed oats till June 12 then quit and wait for harvest. Hopfully get 7000 acres in the ground but not likely.

[Jagfarms]

I have some land along the river hills that has some
rocks and a few hills. I do not grow lentils or peas
there because of this.
I have been farming this land SF Durum rotation.
What would work to seed on the Durum stubble
other than a pulse?

Flax? Canola? Canary?

I would not want to seed Canola on the Durum
stubble if I have some Canola seeded on SF as if I
get a good crop on SF and a wreck on Stubble it
would average out to a high enough yield I would
not get crop insurance.

[mustardman]

Jag, I am one of those guys that thinks Canola will Only work on fallow in SW Sask CONSISTENTLY. However this year is totally different as there is 4feet of moisture in the ground. I am in a continuous crop rotation and this year I will seed some canola 5440 on durum stb and on pea stb. The hills you talk of I am guessing they are sceptre heavy clay ? I would go with canola before canary as even if it turns hot and dry the canola has a root system, the canary does not

Even rolling won't help your Peas ??

[Jagfarms]

Mustardman
There is quite a few rocks on the land I mentioned in the previous post.

Rolling would help some what but I would not want to take a chance.

It is right along the Edge of the river hills North East of Leader 3 miles.

I have a 1/2 section there. On the south side of the 1/2 it is gumbo. About 300 feet from the south side the soil changes as you go north. It does not stick like gumbo. It is more loamy. I can grow great durum crops there if we get the rain but it is not like the Sceptre clay.

[hobbyfrmr]

Jag, It was long ago, and far away, but we used to get 20- 25 bu/ac with polish on SMF. I would strongly suggest buying a lower priced herb resistant variety. LL or RR argentine. You at least have the potential to match that yeild and good chance higher yeild. A previous poster triggered a thought, being, if they (industry/regulators)find one cleaver, and/or one mustard, there goes the $20/bushel. I am only 40 but very jaded with farming. In my opinion ,normally the industry will find a way to devalue your/my production. I guess I am being negative, but consider risk/reward. I am much less ambitious than when I started, and I blame that fully and completely on the grain buyers/industry. Lots of farmers my age present themselves in a better manner than I. That has a lot to do with attitude. I just find that in the last decade my moxy has just slowy been eroded. I like another previous poster describing the fact that prices/potential have never been higher. Yeild is the next part of the equation, I really dont think you will be happy with polish due to herbicide limitations.

[BTOfarmall]

Hobbyframer sounds gist like da Confectionery Sunflower Seed Buyers. Dey's got it down to a science on how to Chisel & Cheat yer neighbours & friends. Gist gotta out smart dem, stay one feet ahead. Simple if you's are a Marketeer. Remembers you's got da product, find anotter buyer if'n you's gettin taken. Taught all you's are Self Proclaimed Genie Marketeers???

Saskfarmertree shall we's all still hold our breath waitin' fer yer reply on sewing da whole ranch to flax???

[poorboy]

In southern Sask, I would think you would be happy with polish canola. If you have not grown much canola in the past, you will not have the disease pressure that tends to cut the yield of polish canola.

I have grown a few 40 bush crops and lots of 25-30 bushel crops in southern Alberta. Make sure you str cut it.

It seems in my area that you either want to have it seeded very early or late, so you miss the late July heat. Here that means seeding in the first week of May or June 10. Polish canola can't stand the heat when flowering like the newer hybrid argentine varieties.

You need good fertility, but don't over do it. Polish canola will lodge much easier than todays argentine varieties.

Twice in the last 5 years I have had to go into my field of argentine canola that was seeded May 10 and reseed areas that the gophers ate off to Reward polish canola. The reseeded canola was June 20 one year and June 26 the other. First time the argentine yielded 42 and the polish 31 and the second time the argentine was 46 and the polish 28.

If find that brown mustard and polish canola yield very close to the same, so if you have neighbors that seed brown or oriental mustard they may be a good source for yield info.