Triffid Bites a Hunk out of Pocketbooks

[parsley]

Well, I'll be darned, darn.

Neal Oberg, Chair of the Audit Committee of the big fat flax baby, FC2015, just happens to also be the B of D of AVAC:

"AVAC continues to break ground in Alberta and making a significant contribution to Alberta’s emerging value-add industry, and the fledgling venture capital sector"

Read more: http://www.avacltd.com/about/board-members

Isn't that really quite the "well gee whiz" Pars

[BTOfarmall]

Here's a taught...

Crush all da flax here in Comedia. I tink dey call it Value Added. Den certify da oil Triffid free and sells it abroad....

Someting to Ponder......

[parsley]

BTO, Oil does not disguise triffid contamination, even ground, which leads to my never-ending point, "Who should pay for triffid expenses,(testing, fines, product recall,broken contracts etc, and lost profit? (markets lost, containers not shippped, etc"

Isn't it your best interest to know who picks up the tab for losses? Pars

[oneoff]

This thread will now go deathly quiet. Charlie will run out of questions to confuse the basic issues. The average farmer will be continue to see flax as a minor , marginal crop and be content with the major win of getting 50% of the testing costs back as a subsidy. Serious flax oil crushing will continue in China and around the world; but probably never be done where it should have been in the first place. And it will be another 6 months before another similar thread appears on Agriville as the industry and Flax Council continue to manipulate our business of flax production.

[oneoff]

Naw. There's no reason for flax to be put under the CWB. Its already under the Flax Council; and they have the ear of the Gov't and their hands in the pockets of both the Gov't and the producers. They have the industry players onside (and unfortunantely the tacit approval of the producers which was obtained by default) so their position is quite secure. They are their own CWB.

[bucket]

Its quite amazing that the people that have the intelligence to insert a gene into a seed microscopically (in other words, very smart people), can't trace where their seed ended up.

Even though there is a system in place for that to happen.

This flax thing has been talked to death. The flax council,cfia,saskflax, certified seed growers have taken our money to ensure this wouldn't happen and now they won't accept responsibility that it did.

Its like the financial mess that happen in the states. The banks knew what was going on, let it happen and then they needed the government and taxpayers to bail them out. And then gave themselves bonuses.

Anyone involved in the triffid affair from the seed developer to the seed growers who grew it and sold it are responsible. And for the seed growers that trickled it through their supplies to gain an extra 50 cents should be out of business.

[charliep]

Perhaps you are right.

Could one of you answer wd9's question.

Is triffid flax considered safe for feed food and the environment in Canada?

One world only. Yes or no.

[bucket]

The answer according to cfia, as they are the ones that approved the variety, is yes.

And until the EU starves a bit for flax they won't say yes.

Interesting, and this was suggested to saskflax, this is a year the industry could rid itself of triffid flax.

How? Well, with the lower than expected production and all flax tested they could offer a premium to get rid of it. The government to date has spent 10 million dollars to the very organizations that caused the problems. Why not just premium up the flax, pay the money to farmers to sell their flax?

Otherwise all this becomes is a vice for the flax council, saskflax et all to continue to ask for money to "fix" the problem.

The only way to fix it is to get it out of farmers bins. All flax grown from the 2010 crop forward, due to the idiotic protocols, is now triffid free, right? That was the fix, wasn't it?

So now all that has to happen is the pre-2010 crop has to be removed from the bins? Understand now why it was an idiotic protocol. The problem is still there.

[bucket]

The money to solve the problem would have been better spent investigating the crushing industry for expansion.

The chinese made a killing by buying triffid,crushing it, and selling the oil more than likely to the EU.

Canada has to start taking advantage of these opportunities, instead of throwing 10 million down the drain to organizations that won't accept responsibility.

[bluefargo]

Charlie
I for one appreciate your reasoned comments on this topic.
I find my one typing finger incapable of standing up to the tsunami of BS on this topic.
I find the 'hate on' for seed growers particularly irksome. For the life of me I can't see how seed growers have benifitted from this mess. In my own case it has cost me a pile of money.I am serously thinking of getting out of the pedigree flax seed business.
Thanks for being the voice of common sense and reason