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    How Has Past "Compromise" Worked for Organic Growers?

    Canola has open pollinated from one end of the province/world to another.

    Flax has "escaped"

    So, is it logical to assume/hope/predict/pretend that genetically refashioning other crops won't result in more of the already proven:

    PERMANENT IRREVERSIBLE CHANGE

    "Agriculture Secretary calls for ‘new paradigm’ of cooperation in GM debate
    Post a commentBy Caroline Scott-Thomas, 05-Jan-2011

    Related topics: The GM debate, Legislation

    USDA Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack has called for compromise and cooperation between supporters of genetically modified (GM) crops and those of non-GM crops in an open letter to stakeholders.

    Vilsack’s call comes after another year of litigation involving the US Department of Agriculture (USDA), in which the Center for Food Safety among others won federal court cases banning the planting of GM alfalfa and GM sugar beets, both supplied by Monsanto. The Supreme Court allowed continued planting of GM alfalfa while the USDA prepared an Environmental Impact Statement (EIS), which it completed in mid-December, following years of litigation.

    And a federal court in San Francisco has ordered that GM sugar beets be uprooted on similar grounds, although a court of appeals decision has delayed their destruction until March at least.

    Vilsack said in the letter that he is confident in the USDA’s regulatory system for approving crop safety, saying that its decisions are science-based and “science strongly supports the safety of GE alfalfa” – although he also acknowledged that farmers of non-GM alfalfa have legitimate concerns about cross-pollination.

    “Litigation will potentially lead to the courts deciding who gets to farm their way and who will be prevented from doing so,” he wrote. “Regrettably, what the criticism we have received on our GE alfalfa approach suggests, is how comfortable we have become with litigation – with one side winning and one side losing – and how difficult it is to pursue compromise.

    “Surely, there is a better way, a solution that acknowledges agriculture's complexity, while celebrating and promoting its diversity. By continuing to bring stakeholders together in an attempt to find common ground where the balanced interests of all sides could be advanced, we at USDA are striving to lead an effort to forge a new paradigm based on coexistence and cooperation. If successful, this effort can ensure that all forms of agriculture thrive so that food can remain abundant, affordable, and safe.”

    Science policy analyst at the Center for Food Safety Bill Freese told FoodNavigator-USA.com that he was impressed by what he sees as Vilsack’s genuine concern for farmers, but said GM and non-GM crop coexistence is particularly difficult for alfalfa.

    “Everyone sounds reasonable but when push comes to shove, if there’s no liability, it’s just words,” Freese said.Unquote

    #2
    Perhaps this is the crux of the debate. Promise to back off/not to interfer and let discussion flow.

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      #3
      Debate all you want charliep,; after all, you are biotech's firmest advocate. Pars

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        #4
        The foodnavigator link. There is an area for comment - 3 are posted.

        [URL="http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Legislation/Agriculture-Secretary-calls-for-new-paradigm-of-cooperation-in-GM-debate/?c=jYz%2BwZTNAeWTeSLpW23w8g%3D%3D&utm_source=newsl etter_daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Newslett er%2BDaily"]food navigator[/URL]

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          #5
          Parsley,

          "Debate all you want"...

          THE world has changed. Almost 7 billion folks out there.... and each year harder to better feed us all.

          We have seen NOTHING to what is coming. CHINA does whatever they want. India is right on the heels of China.

          These folks will set the standards with 3 billion folks who each have daily food needs. North America means diddly in the realm of future food standards and demand.

          The creative desire and nature of human beings... will drive our future food supply... just as it has in the past.

          There is no going 'back'... because as long as there are 7billion folks... each one with the 'right' to a reasonable food supply...

          Too many chem warfare/nuke bombs... and suicide bombers.

          Going back to 1900 is NOT an option in 2011.

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            #6
            I agree we cannot go back to 1900
            My point is this Tom

            1, Discuss openly. it affects farmers like you and I
            2. Organic has a traceability system in place and it has worked fairly well for flax,I observe. However, we also depend upon everyone to be vigilant.

            3. How are the conventional seed systems working? Is their traceability working? Compliance systems? How about ethics? Are you confident?

            3. How is government inspection working? CGC testing? Licensing? Facility requirements? Are you confident?

            4. If we are going to work together, how about some tranparency? Is full disclosure obvious to you? Are you confident?

            5. bucket took his flax to Quantum for testing he states on another thread, and they ground it in a 'common' used coffeegrinder to test it. Which prompted him to ask about procedure. Are you confident?

            6. Officals seem to be the worst at ass-covering. Farmer officials. Government oficialls. Department officials. Are they generally acting in the best interest of ALL players? Are you confident?


            Let's look at what will benefit all players and maybe you can add some, or rag on some:

            1. Legally tying ownership with responsibility.

            2. Government acting as a regulator instead of as an investor.

            3. Allow lobbyists to lobby ONLY online, with full public disclosure. No show and tell trips to karla-types.

            4.Compliance will be routinely triggered and honored and transparent.

            Just a start. Those are tough, forthright suggestions.

            "Eyes opened wide" is the only way to approach what I consider extremely serious down the road problems. Throw some suggestions into the pot, Pars

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