Regulation, Procedures, and Rules for Triffid

[parsley]

"EU waited a decade to complain that their linoleum was GMO?"

They had ordered non GMO and I expect they thought they had purchased GMO.

Why would they doubt it?

After all, they had listed their specs as non GMO and paid for the order.

Wasn't it Canada that did the testing and er, lied? I believe sophiscticated negotiaters call that kind of slight of tongue, "mis-spoke", don't they?

Was that the way it worked? You'll know. Or does the explanation "what happened in Vegas stays in Vegas" apply in this case? Pars

[charliep]

Why would a linoleum manufacturer care whether GMO or non GMO
flaxseed was used? If they are importing linoil, do they care about
GMO? For that matter, how much genetic material is vegetable oil
in general and linoil in particular. From what I know, genetic
material is tied up in proteins. Impossible to remove all the protein
material/solids but likely almost will be gone (most valuable part of
flaxseed).

Its a political decision based on Canada breaking EU rules in the
case of the industrial market. Human consumption markets would
have a different answer.

[parsley]

I recall a spell when the bottom fell out of the flax market.
How soon we forget.

I really read these Flax stats wrong if you are claiming the market is sunshiney:


Number of cargoes represented
October 2010
#1 flax 1 cargo
#2 flax 2 cargoes

Crop year to date
#1 flax 2cargoes
#2 flax 5 cargoes

Previous year totals
#1 flax 16cargoes
#2 flax 66cargoes

Tonnes represented
October 2010
#1 flax 848 tonnes
#2 flax 20146 tonnes

Crop year to date
#1 flax 1614 tonnes
#2 flax 59910 tonnes

Previous year totals
#1 flax 101228 tonnes
#2 flax 395844 tonnes

So sorry for missed-understanding. These are great numbers Pars

[charliep]

Just curious the source. Don't add up with CGC statistics.

[URL="http://www.grainscanada.gc.ca/statistics-statistiques/gsw-shg/gswm-mshg-eng.htm"]CGC[/URL]

[parsley]

If flax in an area, is sold or grown which causes Triffid germination, or contamination, regardless of how isolated, all flax growers in that area have been affected.

Any area, where a farmer is testing Triffid positive, is being treated as one contiguous whole.

Does the flax webpage refer to infected areas? Is a 'no sale' nmerely a grain financial loss or also future market loss? Always good to use numbers, some of you were saying.

Pars

[parsley]

http://www.grainscanada.gc.ca/flax-lin/export-exportation/feqd-dqel-eng.htm

[wd9]

Europe has always known there was triffid in flax shipments. There always will be.

[parsley]

Then it will be reflected in the contracts.

[charliep]

Ah. Your data is port only based on inspections and doesn't include US movement via rail and truck.

[oneoff]

Until the industry and the Flax Council respond to the concern below; I'm going to repeat the analysis below for another time. Show me some proof that this is not valid; or else quit lying to producers.


There is a time coming where you won't be able to sell some lots of flax at all; if the industry is truly sincere about ridding the Triffid gene in flax supplies.
Thats because some day soon we'll be able to check for one rogue flax seed in a billion. Thats the first day the industry should be touting that we are Triffid free.

However; there are reports that it is now possible to test for a single cancer cell in a billion of other cells circulating in anyone's blood stream.
When such sensitivity becomes available for the Triffid gene; that's the day we'll have to admit that there is a little bit of everything in anything........because every flax sample is going to come back POSITIVE. Now I know that the industry can't comprehend what I'm saying; but I promise you that this is absolutely 100% true and can't be otherwise.
And its also the day that it will not be humanly possible to be careful enough to get a sample that probably will be not contaminated by the sampling protocol itself.
Consumers, buyers and farmers are being fed 100% B.S. The question isn't do we consider Triffid contaminated flax to be safe. How in heck is any ordinary person expected to have the expertise or ability to make that informed decision . Whether Triffid is safe; or whether it was a serious mistake; the only reason someone may now want our opinion (after it is way too late to make any differnece regarding its release to our environment); is to spread the responsibility beyond where it should rest with those who did allow its release.