Regulation, Procedures, and Rules for Triffid

[parsley]

I recall a spell when the bottom fell out of the flax market.
How soon we forget.

I really read these Flax stats wrong if you are claiming the market is sunshiney:


Number of cargoes represented
October 2010
#1 flax 1 cargo
#2 flax 2 cargoes

Crop year to date
#1 flax 2cargoes
#2 flax 5 cargoes

Previous year totals
#1 flax 16cargoes
#2 flax 66cargoes

Tonnes represented
October 2010
#1 flax 848 tonnes
#2 flax 20146 tonnes

Crop year to date
#1 flax 1614 tonnes
#2 flax 59910 tonnes

Previous year totals
#1 flax 101228 tonnes
#2 flax 395844 tonnes

So sorry for missed-understanding. These are great numbers Pars

[charliep]

Just curious the source. Don't add up with CGC statistics.

[URL="http://www.grainscanada.gc.ca/statistics-statistiques/gsw-shg/gswm-mshg-eng.htm"]CGC[/URL]

[parsley]

If flax in an area, is sold or grown which causes Triffid germination, or contamination, regardless of how isolated, all flax growers in that area have been affected.

Any area, where a farmer is testing Triffid positive, is being treated as one contiguous whole.

Does the flax webpage refer to infected areas? Is a 'no sale' nmerely a grain financial loss or also future market loss? Always good to use numbers, some of you were saying.

Pars

[parsley]

http://www.grainscanada.gc.ca/flax-lin/export-exportation/feqd-dqel-eng.htm

[wd9]

Europe has always known there was triffid in flax shipments. There always will be.

[parsley]

Then it will be reflected in the contracts.

[charliep]

Ah. Your data is port only based on inspections and doesn't include US movement via rail and truck.

[oneoff]

Until the industry and the Flax Council respond to the concern below; I'm going to repeat the analysis below for another time. Show me some proof that this is not valid; or else quit lying to producers.


There is a time coming where you won't be able to sell some lots of flax at all; if the industry is truly sincere about ridding the Triffid gene in flax supplies.
Thats because some day soon we'll be able to check for one rogue flax seed in a billion. Thats the first day the industry should be touting that we are Triffid free.

However; there are reports that it is now possible to test for a single cancer cell in a billion of other cells circulating in anyone's blood stream.
When such sensitivity becomes available for the Triffid gene; that's the day we'll have to admit that there is a little bit of everything in anything........because every flax sample is going to come back POSITIVE. Now I know that the industry can't comprehend what I'm saying; but I promise you that this is absolutely 100% true and can't be otherwise.
And its also the day that it will not be humanly possible to be careful enough to get a sample that probably will be not contaminated by the sampling protocol itself.
Consumers, buyers and farmers are being fed 100% B.S. The question isn't do we consider Triffid contaminated flax to be safe. How in heck is any ordinary person expected to have the expertise or ability to make that informed decision . Whether Triffid is safe; or whether it was a serious mistake; the only reason someone may now want our opinion (after it is way too late to make any differnece regarding its release to our environment); is to spread the responsibility beyond where it should rest with those who did allow its release.

[parsley]

I took the data link from the flax Council's webapage charlie. The chart compares from last year to the next year which is what I found interesting, seeing the stats side by side, comparing apples to apples, without someone pulling out figures that muddy.


Speaking about the Flax Council, I came across their Director Jane Goodridge:

Jane Goodridge represents the Feed Industry, and works for FeedRite/Ridley Inc

Ridley has been buying feed companies like I buy candy,

http://www.ridleyinc.com/Companies/

They are an international feed company. As a side note, but rather interesting, Ridley was the feed company involved in the BSE class action in Canada, supplying the feed. Pars

[TOM4CWB]

Wd9,

The problem is in the FLAX meal. NOT the oil. The meal is used in pet foods and some human consumption applications. I can't blame the EU... being careful is better than the BSE fiasco.

EU is now able to test to find 1 in a million seeds with event.

Rice that was contaminated is now clear. It is not impossible to eliminate... it is simply an excuse not to take our flax industry back to square one and reconstruct. That would cost $ billions.

No one wants to pay that bill in the Canadian scientific community (ie CDC).

In my opinion it will take 10 years to clear our farm of terror-riffid flax.

We never grew it... or so we thought.

We will never even know... if there was actually one plant on our farm... but the flax option has been removed from our rotation tool box... of crops to plant.

OBSCene. Crazy. Life in 2011. The bold NEW world.

[wd9]

At ppb levels its in the oil.

[parsley]

What has been learned?.

1. We have watched how regulation, procedure and rules have NOT been followed.

2, Duty of care has been disregarded by officials in gov't instiutions, councils, and organizations, as proven by the lack of open accountability and lack of punishment for non-compliance.

Governments, institutions, bureaucrats and farmers in leadership roles have learned nothing except how to pass th buck.

Have you heard an "I'm sorry."?

As a result, all future failures will be downloaded on ordinary farmers over and over again.

As you read, a scheme to introduce, for example, biotech barley, will probably be unveiled this year, and past failed protocol will be blindly embraced, copied, and hoisted on farmers.

And the hoisters will argue over and over that "it's for your own good", or "how else will it get done, you ornery goat?",or "we'll get left behind if we don't hurry".

I use the word 'failed' on behalf of everyday farmers, because the rest of the bedbug-crowd have always lived high on taxpayer and farmer checkoff welfare, and they expect it to continue.

I will predict that a barley scheme will propose including more and a wider grasp of checkoffs on sales to elevators, feedlots, feed mills etc.

I suspect there will be barley varieties being developed as you read, that need to be paid for and as you well know, governments are cutting back.

That leaves goats to pay more.

I also suspect there will eventually be a barley council set up that will operate similar to the failed flax councils. Ordinary farmers will again be a negligible voice at the table.

Councils are proven vehicles, becoming merely institutions set up to gather up crop-taxes, as well as planners for directing the matching taxmoney towards "more deserving" interests.

Developing Perennial barley should be #1 on the list, but it would only serve the interests of Prairie farmers.

Imagine planting a barley that could be harvested for eight years without seeding!

Instead, checkoff money will be used for funding scientsts who's directed mandate is to develop drought resistant barley for Africa to coincide with the irrigation system being set up at the same time, in the same region of Africa.

Biotech barley will not be compared to Harrington barley in all the thousands of studies yet to be studied, because "We musta forgot it because it's not important".

As well, barley with selenium in it will escape. Barley that is red will escape. Barley that has goat dung in it will escape. Escape into the wild. They will cross pollinate.

No one will claim ownership of the goat dung barley, but the odd dog eats it.

Only then, can farmers can finally move on to fund "getting it right this time" with tritica or buckwheat or one of the many other councils to set up.

Is there one funding paradym in play in the ag community we should pay attention to?

Yes:

"FARMERS WILL PAY"

Especailly when you listen to the whispers:

'Even if they have to be legislated to pay.'

Parsley