My Experience at the C to C

[charliep]

How did the CWB define a premium? I assume a better price than
competitors with similar quality wheat for sale on the same day but
need to be confirmed. How do they separate single desk selling on
behalf of western Canadian farmers benefit from perhaps the ability to
provide better service and a higher quality crop based on the whole
supply chains contribution to effective logistics and quality control?
Perhaps the premium is based on more than the CWB.

Did they address the issue of the higher prices in the US versus
Canada. Will note the highlight put forward in Agriville is this is to be
expected given the US larger domestic market. Selling a premium all
the time in world markets should offset some of the advantage the US
has with a larger domestic. US exports 50 % of their wheat production.
Canada 70 %.

[lnewman]

Premium from what i gathered was higher price .
Kicker is, over and over they talk about Japan Premium
market .Cwb says we produce 23 million tonnes on
average 6 million goes to premium markets. Not one
word about how they dispose of the remaining 17
million . This year we are short grain for these
premium markets Major concern?

[bucket]

And their answer was?

You were there, did you not ask a question?

Although I know what the cwb answer would be as I have been to those things. Just wanted to know if you end up as frustrated as I do.

[charliep]

Japan imports about 1.25 MMT of Canadian wheat out of total imports of 5.7 MMT. Put into percent terms, Japan represents about 8 % of Canadian wheat exports.

Domestic feed consumption ranges from 3 to 4 MMT. Seed 1 MMT. Domestic flour milling 3MMT.

[dirtgirl]

I am disappointed but not surprised at your findings. Socialism is deeply entrenched in Saskatchewan. I can say however, that if you had attended the c to c alumni conference last year, you might have met me - a 30 something Saskatchewan farmer who believes in marketing freedom.

[mcfarms]

Sounds like the same C to C I attended about 8 years ago.

[Fransisco]

Thanks for sharing. It kind of confirms one of the things that I've been thinking. Namely that there are all sorts of farmers out there who really don't think that deeply about the whole CWB issue. Which plays right into the boards hands.

[TOM4CWB]

Charlie,

The Russians distracted Daylate!

Try again:

Daylate,

The actual issue comes down to 'interpretation' of the CWB Act.

CWB managers insist that 'orderly marketing' requires all CWB grain go through the pool accounts and growers be paid a 'blended' pool price basis... even though it was claimed to have been a 'cash' price that was paid.

We have 2 pool adjustments going here.

There is the pool factor in the setting of the PPO basis itself... and the secondary pooling factor now of the 'adjustment factor'.

Setting the grade spreads using initial prices also factors pool 'orderly marketing' components that further drag cash prices off actual sales values.

Then there is the selling of higher grade quality into lower value markets... and the adjustment in the pool price DOWN for the proper spec for that sale.

Complex issues that few can get their minds around.

No wonder the CWB can claim a premium... the whole system is designed to SAY every kernel is valued at a 'premium price'...

But the pool value suffers as the CWB itself pays the premium to each class from the greater pool.

An astute shell game that is not based on 'farm gate' grower value paid pricing... but on internal CWB value accounts the CWB itself designs and manipulates to prove the 'value' of the 'single desk'...

When 'paper' blends are paid our farm on Canola green seed discounted grades... the farm gate price is maximised for our family. NOT so with CWB pool blending. THE opposite... value is instead extracted.

Charlie, what do you think?

[Burbert]

Tom, You forgot to show them your picture. That would have clinched it and turned all those young progressive folks totally against the CWB.

[TOM4CWB]

Burbert,

Anyone with an ounce of brains can pool a year of sales.

The CWB must start to reflect transparent market values... or the misapplication of grain grower resources continues without resolution.

This does not even affect the 'single desk'. Unless the 'single desk' only exists to discount price our grain.

If the only reason the CWB exists... is to discount value CWB Board grains... then Burbert... someone will stop the abuse of 'designated area' grain growers... besides me.

I need the CWB to work FOR our farm... not against our farm. I can NOT see why this means I am 'against' the CWB and want its destruction.

But then do you even care about what grain growers actually need... Burbert???