My Experience at the C to C

[Jagfarms]

Bucket

Did you read all of my post?
I said there was good prices available in the spring of 2009.
I also said I would not have contracted any Durum before it was in the bin.

It is pretty easy to say with hindsight that we would have forward contracted durum.

[Ron]

Jag, you are more risk averse than some
(not saying its a bad thing. It may
stem from productions variations in your
area. Or not.)
A lot of us are not risk averse (not
saying its a good thing. Its just how
we are).
But shouldn't I have the same freedom to
blah blah blah. The same as canola and
pules blah blah blah.
Its the same old argument. Like a dog
chasing its tail.

The only difference is while I used to
respect your right to market your grain
through your CWB I now realize that you
don't have the same respect for my
rights to market my grain.

No more dual market bullshit. Get rid
of the CWB.
End of discussion

SCREW THE CWB

[Ron]

Sorry Jag, forgot to mention.

While I have zero respect for your
control of my wheat I do appreciate your
well thought respectful post (something
I tend to struggle with at times).

I hope after the CWB is dead and gone
you can adjust and market the last 40%
of your crop yourself in the free world.

[ColevilleH2S]

Jag at least you get to name your price for your Verona seed production($12/bus.).

Thanks for forcing the rest of us who are not registered seed producers to market their production through the board >:-(

[farmgal71]

Are they indifferent because they don't think they can force a change?

Focus on what they know they can accomplish...get the spraying down.

[Jagfarms]

ColevilleH2S

I am a pedigreed seed grower.
2010 was the first year I grew Durum for pedigreed seed production.
Any farmer can become a pedigreed seed grower. 2011 will be the 5th year I been growing pedigreed seed. It is not that hard to do and farmer can do it.
I think I have done ok growing lentils for seed production but not sure about the Durum.

In the spring of 2010 I purchased my foundation Verona seed for around $18/bu. I paid for my seed growers fees, an acreage fee for growing pedigreed seed. An inspection fee for having my fields inspected. Then all the extra work involved, isolation strips, keeping the fields clean, cleaning out the air drill, trucks, bins augers combines. Doing all this cleaning out equipment when your nabours are seeding and harvesting and you are not.
It is quite time consuming. Then all the paper work that comes with it.
I do not have my own seed cleaning plant so I have to truck it to the cleaner and truck it home. Only a few cleaners are registered to clean pedigreed seed. They charge more than a cleaner that cleans commercial seed. Then you have to pay again to have your paper work done once the seed is cleaned.

You have to pay a fee each year to be a bulk storage facility. Then you have to pay to have an audit "inspection" done each year off the start.
Then there is the germ and disease test for the seed.
If you add up all these extra cost not including your time you are looking at lots of extra $$ to produce pedigreed seed. If you do not make over $4 to $5 bu over the market price. You are doing all the extra work for nothing.

Then you have to hope you can market all the seed that you produced.

With the pros going up the retail price of Verona Durum seed will be going up to $12.50/bu.
I have only cleaned half of my Verona so far as I am not sure how much demand there will be for Verona.

We liked Verona better than our Strongfield, stood up better, nicer color, thrashed out easier and yielded a bit more.

I will be growing Verona Durum again in 2011. It will be over 50 percent of my seeded acres. I do not think any of it will be for seed production and at the most 10 percent of the Durum will be for seed production.

I think 2011 will be the year for Durum.

[Jagfarms]

Thanks Ron for your post

I like to hear other farmers opinions on the Cwb.

I am not trying to force my way of thinking about the CWB.
Not saying if I am right or wrong.

Just telling the way it effects me and see where I am coming from.

We are lucky in our area as we have such a large option of different crops we can grow.

[bucket]

Jag

since you have a soft spot for the cwb, could I purchase some of your verona seed for 1.50 a bushel and pay you the remainder in december of 2012?

Just wondering how people believe a system is good for the masses but want a special system for themselves.

Why do seed growers not have the same payment plan as the cwb?

Just wondering.

[Jagfarms]

Bucket

How much seed do you want?

If I knew for sure I would get paid in Dec 2011 I could go for that.

[Ron]

I think he will take it all with an
estimate of the value and pay you whatever
he decides its worth by Dec 2011 (possibly
with a couple payments in between. But
thats up to him as to when and how much,
if any)
What the hell its only 40% of your crop
and it saves you the nuisance of marketing
it.