CWB and Young Farmers

[Lifer]

Thank you for clarifying. It may be my own way of reading or hearing things. I have heard the term "progressive farmer" when referring to a farmer that is more open to use of new technologies.

I have heard the term used as being good and one opposed to change as bad.

[parsley]

I heard that. LOL Pars

[Jagfarms]

What age group is a young farmer in?
Under 65
Under 60
Under 50
Under 40
Under 30

[parsley]

cole,

I am whatever you want to call it..progressive or regressive , but mainly aggressive.... trying to go back to 1924 to recoup the days when the CWB was not in existence. Pars

[Lifer]

"Progressive: favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are."

That would mean Parley is "progressive" 'cause she wants to change and reform the way farmers farm, back to the way they did in 1924 ;-)

I haven't heard Parsley say she wants to change everyone else. I read her as putting forward her truth that works for her and she doesn't want others forcing her to do something that she doesn't want to.

[parsley]

cole,

I am whatever you want to call it..progressive or regressive , but mainly aggressive.... trying to go back to 1924 to recoup the days when the CWB was not in existence. Pars

[Lifer]

"Progressive: favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are."

That would mean Parley is "progressive" 'cause she wants to change and reform the way farmers farm, back to the way they did in 1924 ;-)

I haven't heard Parsley say she wants to change everyone else. I read her as putting forward her truth that works for her and she doesn't want others forcing her to do something that she doesn't want to.

[ColevilleH2S]

"trying to go back to 1924 to recoup the days when the CWB was not in existence. Pars "

Touché. I've been humbled

[haveapulse]

Problem is with the voters list most of the time the person with the quota book is not the young farmer.

The only way to get a good idea of what the "Real" farmers want is to revamp the voters list. A total census and review is essential.

Chairman Oberg will never let it happen.

[freewheat]

Hey, lakenheath,

I agree with you wholeheartedly regardling the banishment of the cwb. But I do not fit your mold. I am 34, but I am not progressive enough in that I only farm 1500 acres. Some of those guys on your list surely did not build snot. A 26 year old farming 7500 acres. Holy crap, but where have I been? I have yet to see 800 acres for sale/rent in my area let alone 7000.

All I mean is i feel progressive in a lot of ways, ie agronomically, mentally, anti cwb'y, but because I farm with junk equipment, and farm 10 % of what the "progressives" do, I kinda take it as a slap in the face. I have fought alone for every single of the 1500 I farm. I doubt these guys built much on their own without some base to start from. One of my most successful neighbors, can not add 17.6 and 23.4 in his head, but he is very wealthy. He can't fix nothing, or get all oily, but he is rich. He is a young farmer candidate for sure!!!LOL

I'm meaning this in the nicest way. i just get riled when guys feel the bto's are the only progressive ones, or tie acreage farmed to success, or to progressiveness. Heck, several guys I know who farm bigger acreages are some of theee DUMBEST guys I have ever met, seriously. Why do they farm so much and seem to do so well? One of a few reasons:

#1 DADDY had an inheritance
#2 DADDY had gravel on his land
#3 DADDY cosigned loans
#4 DADDY paid for his first year inputs
#5 DADDY has paid for land from 1977
#6 DADDY you name it
#7 Wife makes 80 000 a year
#8 They were nominated by themselves to be outstanding young farmer, and so scrambled to farm as much land as they could so they fit the criteria. LOL

I'm just saying. For here anyways, the bigger guys are bigger cuz of old money most often, not necessarily brains. I can think of one big guy who built it on his own, but EVERYONE else had BIG time help.

So tying succes, or prosperity to skill, brains or anything but luck, FOR HERE at least is pure folly.

I am too small to want the cwb gone, wth should I do???

[fjlip]

"First generation buys it, second builds it, third expands it, fourth looses it."
Heard and seen this before, I'm third gen and the fourth sees too many $$ and way less stress in other occupations. They are smarter and n more impatient, than us waiting a life time for change in valuing farming.
The few 30 somethings working the farms are with the parents, uncle or grandparents. They are adding to equity with lots of breaks from older gen. Time will tell if they ever get weaned before inheriting. Then the proof will come.
Those that knew Ted Cawkwell. will see that his family called it quits( on Ritchie Bros) after he passed away on Dec 25. We all though the next gen would farm some of those 13000 acres.

[ColevilleH2S]

Here is my situation. I farm 3000 acres. I own a small portion of that land, and crop share the rest with 8 different landlords. The 4 that have their own permit books vote for the CWB, I vote against it. Yet my ownership of production on the farm averages 71% vs. the 4 board supporters with 14%. My 71% receives 1 vote, and the 14% get 4 votes. Go figure?