Gmo Wheat???

[farmaholic]

Jag

Isn't wheat self pollenating? It pollenates itself before the flowers open, unlike canola.

[charliep]

Just curious on the source of the quote.

Also why the ideas always go the genetic engineering/transgenics
and Monsanto/roundup ready?

Genetic modification in different forms dealing only with genetic
material contained in the original plant are being done all over the
world including Europe. Gene mapping, knowledge of gene
functions, etc are developing at rapid pace. May scare some but it is
the new world that provides GPS/autosteer, internet access from your
tractor, etc. Are we going the right way or wrong way? Good
question but we are going there none the less. The "there" is more
than biotech and plant breeding.

Perhaps a challenge for Agriville participants is to keep up with the
new plant technologies. You likely know more about computer
technology than you do about the seed you plant. You are the front
line in communicating about your product with the consumer. Are
you knowledgeable?

[charliep]

an economist (not plant scientist) but from what people tell me, wheat is closed pollinator. There is out crossing rate of 1 to 5 % which is still a lot of seed.

[Ron]

http://www.topcropmanager.com/content/vi
ew/951/38/



The pollination factor. Wheat, barley
and oats are all close-pollinated. In
simple terms this means that pollination
leading to grain formation occurs before
the flower opens. Anthesis (protrusion)
of the anthers occurs after
fertilization has taken place:
pollination (fertilization) has already
occurred. Naturally in the field, wheat,
barley and oats do Not cross pollinate.
This is why cultivars of wheat, barley
or oats are grown side by side for seed.
There is no cross-pollination in the
field. Bread wheats in the field do not
cross with other wheats of any kind
(like durum or utility), even when grown
side by side. Rye on the other hand is a
cross-pollinated cereal and certified
rye crops grown for seed must be planted
miles away from any other rye crops.



I like the idea of just in Durum. Its a
small niche market that is grown in an
area where producers have lots of other
options so lets test it out there.

If it doesn't work out you can seed
something else or buy another truck.


END THE CWB. NOW

[Ron]

Sorry Charlie, you posted while I was
censoring my rant.

But still, if Canada (CWB) really
controls the export Durum market they
should still be able to extract their
premiums and if they can't?

Who cares? Its a niche crop and they
have other choices. If you don't want
to grow GMO Durum, then seed something
else. hahahahhahaha

END THE CWB. NOW

[parsley]

Jag and I both argue the same points.

He's a Board supporter and I am not, but we agree on the issue of food safely.

We agree and differ.

Ironic, isn't it.

The way I see it, the reason we differ on the CWB issue, is that he sees the Wheat Board as a farmer run institution looking out for him. He thinks farmers are boss. LOL

I read CWB legislation written as a government run institution with the Minister able to pronounce a LEGAL Ministerial order to overun farmers, any old time he feels a fluffy tickling his fancy.

ONE sole government owned monopoly institution is the easiest way for Biotech to get their way.

One negotiation. One % higher. Then another. One deal. One donation. One lobby. One report stalled.

Besides, "You can't squawk, Mr Smith,
farmers are running the CWB!" is the argument...

Institutions, with well oiled propoganda machines, are a proven way for 'government and industry partnerships' to introduce risky ventures, a way to pick out who will succeed in business, a way to gift largesse, and a way to reward loyalty. All quietly and legally.

Choices are not made with wise eyes. They are made with political eyes.

In 1988, I visited with a pseudo-farmer-scientist in Manitoba, growing GMO test plots who had been doing so for quite some time.

Neighbors had noticed,(ha ha, :<) no kidding) but it was all to be kept hush hush.

Transparency is absent in biotech
Accountability is absent in biotech.
It's doing business by stealth and that is never ever good for society.

Biotech will impact on food inventions becoming available, and food testing expenses:
ie from Food navigator
"Some of the $1.4bn cost of the bill is intended to increase the number of food safety inspectors by 2,000 to increase the frequency of inspections, ..."

"2010 saw some huge deals on the M&A front. Among a host of others, Kraft paid $21bn for Cadbury, making it the world’s largest confectioner; the European Union approved the €3bn buyout of Cognis by BASF; PepsiCo agreed to pay an eventual $5.4bn for Russian juice and dairy company Wimm-Bill-Dann; and a trinity of investment firms led a $5.3bn buyout of Del Monte Foods."

All chase dollars, but who is left to regulate with a clear eye? Government partners?

It is the reason I really hope farmers like Monte get to thinking about how they must take ownership of their own goals, their vision, their own statistics and their own financial rewards.

Most farmers I know shy from GM wheat, Yet, is growing all over the place.Has been for ever so long. And the CWB knows it. And consumers will ask.

Farmers can modify their farms out of business. pars

[charliep]

parsley

What is your definition of genetically modified? In time we have discussed this topic, I have never seen how you would define.

[Jagfarms]

" Wheat pollen is even more pervasive than that of canola."

Quote from web sites below.

http://gobeyondorganic.com/Weekly-News-Tips/gmo-wheat.html


http://www.organicconsumers.org/wheat.cfm

At the C to C they did a presentation on Gmo in wheat.

Something was mentioned that Gmo Wheat, the seed is effected differently than in. Gmo Canola.

Does anyone know about this?

[mustardman]

If it is herbicide resistant I want No part of it .
Glyphosate is a Huge part of our weed control now and look at the resistance that the Americans have from growing back to back ru ready crops.(beans and corn, beans and corn etc etc

I don't even think anyone should be growing ru ready canola all it does it create another weed

[BTOfarmall]

Ouch, Ron my ears hurt...

Yellin' & Screamin' like that ain't gonna end da Comedian Wit Bored. Might wanna try someting else, like, I don't know, maybe votin' wit yer drill???