good news...one more sees the light

[tipsy]

For those of you that don't believe the stuff that comes over the net will probably find this more palatable. It comes from page 23 of jan 13th issue of the Producer.
Long Time defender of support programs and a national voice for farmer- friendly polices has had a dramatic change of heart.
Mario Dumais said in an analysis published recently that the farm support model of the past 4 decades is no longer relevant.
Marketing boards with single desk powers hurt farmers and should be abandoned.
The article goes on and is an interesting read and quit accurate I believe.. We'll have to see how the spin doctors play this. I'd post if I knew how.

[silverback]

I have always wondered why some people support the marketing board system and the quota system so vigorously? These same people seem to demonize big corporations and excessive profits endlessly, but no mention of the GUARANTEED profit given to the supply managed sector. Have they noticed how big some of these supply managed "farms" have become and the value they have on paper? What about the impediment to younger farmers not related to these farm owners? There is endless wringing of hands over how hard it is to start farming or even take over, but the supply management system is the hardest system to get into that there is.

[Burbert]

Correct me, if I'm wrong. But supply managed systems are currently making more profit, than the ever so competitive open market? Open markets only make one yawn currently! Checked barley prices lately?

[silverback]

Do you even understand how supply management works?

They guarantee themselves an excellent profit by charging YOU more for their products in the store!

I guess if you are still living in your mommy's basement and letting her pay for the groceries, you might not have understood this.

[BTOfarmall]

Git rid of Supply Management. Watch da prices at the Grocery Store tumble. I kin't wait fer dem to be rid of dis nonsense once & fer all. Gonna be alotta Auction Sales & these supposed farmers deserve every last bit of hardship coming down da pipeline. Wanna screw da consumer??? Yer turn now folks. I gonna enjoy every last bit of you's being hung out to dry!!!!!!!

Do You's see tirty tousand head dairy farms here in Comedia or da US??? I rest my case, git ridda it.....

[vvalk]

Burbert
I hope you are not comparing SM to the wheat board because they couldn"t be more opposite

[Fransisco]

The wheat board doesn't manage supply. It manages demand. As in how much demand is allowed to get through to prairie farmers.

[DogPatch]

Silverback..... Your comment is totally out of line. If you think they make themselves a profit, then go and buy some dairy and try it. Isn't that what everyone is suppose to be trying to do is to make a profit? If you slam someone for working for a profit, then you must be a nut?

[DogPatch]

AND........ talk to you local grocery store in a town of less than 500 people, and more than 150 miles from the milk depot and see how much they make! Trust me, its not worth the effort.

[BTOfarmall]

Actually DogPatch you sir are da Nut. Dese guys kin't even make an honest buck. Tell me den how do dese guys make a buck in da US witout Supply Management??? Called cut da Fat out da Operation...

Pencil Sharpened. Gonna break some numbers down fer you's on what Dairy Cow Guys are makin fer example. Follow along kids....


25 litres per day produced per cow X $0.70 per litre = $17.50 per day

$17.50 X 365 days = $6387.50 per cow, per year gross

Dese guys got a cow to replace da one done lactating, so dis why I used 365 days.

Dis alotta Moneys per cow, per year. Must be nice to have a set profit every year, what da heck do you's got to lose. What you's tink?????

[DogPatch]

Profit is what you have after expenses are paid. Not what you take to the bank. They get paid for their product (Milk) and if they manage that right, they have a profit, maybe. Dairy farmers (US or Canadian) earn every penny. Without supply management there would be so much waste. The cost of production would never make our exports of the excess milk competitive, and we would end up dumping it.

BTO......when are you ever going to learn to spell? You make me think you're an idiot.

[SASKFARMER3]

LPA why is cheese way cheaper in the USA than in Canada under supply managed system. Hm farmers in USA are still making money.

[tmyrfield]

Excess cash becomes capitalized into quota prices till the marketing board farmers are just as well off as their open market neighbors. Then the high cost of quota drives up the price of production so the marketing boards charge more for the products.Canadian Consumers end up paying double and triple what american consumers do.

[parsley]

http://freedomfromcwb.blogspot.com/

[parsley]

http://www.diversityworking.com/grain%20grader-state-saskatchewan-city-saskatoon-comp-canadian%20wheat%20board.html

CWB grader? Employees at CGC forgotten how to grade grain?