Farmland’s Important Little Investment Secret

[haveapulse]

There has been the suggestion that the reason why Europe and Americas farm support network is more responsive to farm profit margins, is the higher % of corporate involvement. Landlords often have political power.

Having a scotch with a corporate land owner and a top government official talking better farm policy to enhance the investment and manage risk, is never a bad thing.

After many years of urban investment outpacing ag. investment the tide has turned. Land IS better than gold, and we have an operating system that if managed well can yield a return. The recipe works.

With some of the cheapest land in the world, get used to it.

[SASKFARMER3]

Some of you just don't get it and that's why history is so important. My one grandfather left Germany because of no future farming you basically worked for someone and never got ahead. The other left Russia for the same reason.
Simply whats happening in Canada is the same shit different way of presenting it.
I still say look at the genius who sold his land and rented it back where is he know.
In our area I would purchase another 6,000,000.00 of land if i could get some neighbors to sell but seems once you get to a certain size your the enemy that's another Saskatchewan story. Damn NDP neighbors.
Whats funny about some comments is such a hot market nothing is available. That's a Joke. One or two quarters is still Property you own no one else and your not sending your hard earned cash to some putz who is doing nothing.

[Caveo]

I totally agree with haveapulse, it is going to happen, but what I saw in the UK was the failure of these companiesin the 80-90's, leaving a hell of a mess. Those that tried to farm did everything to increase margins, and even with their financial clout and special insider deals their farming practices destroyed them (ie Fountain farming UK). Cutting corners and planning from a city office usually allows Mother Nature to show who is boss!
Those that are only interested in investment in land will always find some poor lad who ego is bigger than his bank balance. Then you have just pushed the clock back to a medieval feudal system,with all it's consequences.

[smallguy]

Saskfarmer

Here is a quote pasted on a thread by you on November 29 2010. Thought were talking about yourself, but if you have a extra 6 million kicking around, i guess you must have meant someone else????

"This is just a rumor right now but usually where their is smoke theirs fire.
Seems after some 10 yrs running a very nice operation just by the Qu'Appelle valley will be renting out farm.
The Accountant says its nice you gave it everything, gave it all you could and then some, but your still loosing huge amounts of Cash. So you better wind it down.
Rumor or again does mother nature run the show in harsh western Canada."

[stubblejumper]

sask you just don't get it you are part of the problem not the solution

[hedgehog]

haveapulse, you are dead wrong about european subsidies.
the reason we have subsidies is because of the french farmers, who dont take no jive from anybody. slightest drop in prices etc and they block all the roads, hold the country to ransom. they have political power collectively.
they chopped all their landlords heads off in 1789, and never looked back.
pity we didnt.

[bigsteve]

Don't forget about fairly recent history guys[mid 80s-early 90s]where land actually devaluated? Or the years we tried to figure out which crop would lose us the least amount of money?I'm older and wiser this time around but still have to temper my optimism with reality!A comfortable,quality way of life can quickly be eroded or jeoprodized by low prices for our grain and higher interest rates,ETC.

[SASKFARMER3]

Smallguy that was the red army and it was just a rumor I talked to him since.

[gregpet]

Maybe we shoudn't spread rumors?

[hlg]

Just wondering, where does economy of scale end -20,000, 60,000, 100,000 acres ?? When does the FAMILY farm become the problem.. How much does it take to live comfortably?? No people in rural areas meens no towns, no services.

[DogPatch]

Economies of scale is a large as you can keep employees to do the work. If stress of harvest, seeding and weather (and CWB) turns you into an a$%#LE, then you have too many acres.

[hlg]

Alot of guys have to many acres then!!!

[BTOfarmall]

You Genies need to Grow a Brain...

Hutts are what you's all need to be worried about. I would much sooner dese Corpies buy up da land verses da Hutts. Once a Hutt buys da Land its gone fer LIFE. At least when dese Corpies go broke you's have a chance to by da Land agin'....

We need to put a stop to da Hutts or da Land OUR FORE FATHERS BROKE WILL BE GONE FOREVER TO DESE RODENTS!!!!!!!!!!

Economies of Scale??? Da Hutts drivin' me to Farm It All. Dey ain't gettin anotter Acre in Manitoba, I puttin' a stop to it once and fer all cause dis my Homeland, NOT DARE'S....

Who Wit Me????

[SASKFARMER3]

Yes Greg just the facts.
One gets to a certain size that they enjoy, Building wealth is simple process.
McDonald's is prime example they don't lease the property that their restaurants are on they own it. Simply now their the largest land owners out their higher than the catholic church. But if they used the speakers attitude they would have just flipped burgers. Farming is same think out side the box. Getting rid of CWB and seeing what a big world is out their is maybe the way.

[fjlip]

"One gets to a certain size that they enjoy", that appears to be unattainable once ego and greed over power common sense. It could be a hell of an empty, lonely place in 20 years if 30% of the farmers swallow the rest of us. Some might get so huge that instead of using hired labor, they will rent the land to other suckers, er farmers, and so the cycle begins with the next time the peasants are fed up with the rich landlords. Check history...