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    #16
    These comparisons between 13.5 % protein on the Canadian side and 14% on the U.S. have been going on a long time. The CWB has always complained about them, that they are supposedly "unfair". But they have never pointed to protein as one of those things. The reason why is because 13.5 Canadian and 14 U.S. are the exact same and they know it.

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      #17
      "Flexpro works in a farmers favor in a rising market

      ...which is exactly what the market did, and even then, the flagship of the CWB can't even match the market, let alone offer a premium market price."

      Even when you put your thumb on the scale like timm does with protein they can't get a premium.

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        #18
        Phone the grain commission!!

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          #19
          So, how do you like that?
          A day before the deadline and the CWB bumps the pro up .45/bushel and drops the fpc .03/bushel for a difference of .16/bushel.
          Sold on the fpc today. Looks like the cwb is trying to scare guys into the pool.

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            #20
            They had to it, the pool was still way too low.

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              #21
              My problem with the FlexPro this year was
              you had to commit tonnes to it before said
              tonnes were harvested. Given the quality
              wreck, even with it being above the FPC
              and pool, I think we were right to avoid
              it. The domestic market is and will
              continue to pay more for feed wheat than
              the Board in 2010/11.

              www.farmlinksolutions.ca

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                #22
                Jay-Mo, I feel your frustration. We made our committment to the FPC on Jan 26. I know it's not what we could have gotten just south of us in Rolla, ND, in fact way short, but I've hauled to Rolla and it is like running a gauntlet. The natives weren't all that friendly. Yet they're happy to haul their canola to TLA as i'm sure you've noticed.

                We took the FPC that day because I can't count on the CWB PRO to become the actual CWB final. When we considered that and opportunity cost on the money we had to go. Besides, there was good profit to be made and we couldn't leave it at risk.

                The FPC was not originally conceived to be as complicated as it is. But the combination of the mindset of the CWB of "command and control" and their desire to be the great wizard that levels the playing field for all prairie farmers leaves the FPC as the poorest attempt to imitate the open market there could ever be.

                If Alan Oberg and his caste (yes caste not cast) really represented farmers as they say, they'd stop being "yes men" for the CWB bureaucracy and the NFU and design something that could be simple and would work. (eg. futures mius basis = street price. Over simplified but not off the mark.)

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                  #23
                  On the feed side of things, anybody doing any further pricing with PPO options even though it is feed?

                  We did half ours on a 200% epo early in December for a decent net, well above the Pro. Local feed offers have been quiet, and those I have heard or been offered have been less than a FPC price ( even with all the discounts, although haven't figured the FPC stuff since initials rose, not sure if the spread has changed there ) and /or an EPO at the %200 level.

                  Going to commit the rest of our feed tonnage to a b-series on Monday most likely, have to crunch the numbers again after 2:00pm to see if any type of ppo will work out. Be so much nicer if the wheat had graded!!

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                    #24
                    Doing some numbers with FPC and feed wheat and it has gotten quite ugly. If my math is anywhere near correct, spread from #1 13.5 to feed is $102/tonne or $2.78 bu.

                    FPC Feed discount $35.26/tonne or $.96 bu.

                    So FPC $345.68 -102-35.26= $208.42- freight elevation 49=$159.42 net/tonne
                    or $4.34 bu. YUCK. Oh plus trucking incentive $4.53 bu. Still Yuck.

                    200% epo 235.05/tonne or $6.40/bu - freight/elevation 49/tonne = 186.05net/tonne or $5.06 bu. trucking =$193.05/tonne or $5.25 bu.

                    Quite the spread but perhaps I've miscalculated.

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