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    #16
    The pres of Eqypt wouldn't brashly indicate he isn't leaving, but is instead picking out a new assortment of government ministers, unless he had the military to back him up. He's an ex-military man, cott. And he has some foreign funding, don't you think? Pars

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      #17
      <p></p>
      <p><strong>[URL="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/8289686/Egypt-protests-Americas-secret-backing-for-rebel-leaders-behind-uprising.html"](and it gets murkier....)[/URL]</strong></p>

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        #18
        Will a new reigning party take over Egypt? Anything can happen these days.


        "WASHINGTON - Canada's Muslim community is expected to grow to 6.6 per cent of the population by the year 2030, compared to 2.8 per cent last year.

        That's according to a report released today by the U.S.-based Pew Research Center's Forum on Religion and Public Life.

        It says Muslims in Canada numbered 313,000 in 1990, or 1.1 per cent of the population. Last year, the number had grown to 940,000, or 2.8 per cent.

        The Centre says by 2030, Canada will be home to more than 2.6 million Muslims.

        It also says the world's Muslim population is expected to grow by about 35 per cent by 2030, rising from 1.6 billion in 2010 to 2.2 billion.

        Over the next two decades, the worldwide Muslim population is forecast to grow at about twice the rate of the non-Muslim population — an average annual growth rate of 1.5 per cent for Muslims compared with 0.7 per cent for non-Muslims.

        If current trends continue, says the Centre, Muslims will make up 26.4 per cent of the world's total projected population of 8.3 billion in 2030, up from 23.4 per cent of the estimated 2010 world population of 6.9 billion.

        The full report, which includes an executive summary, interactive maps and sortable data tables, is available on the Pew Forum's website.

        http://pewforum.org"

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          #19
          Predictions, from anyone for Egypt?

          Here's one:

          Egypt's military will support the present leader and they will come down hard on protestors and will arrest over 500 dissidents in the next few days.

          He will stay in power, well paid, until the next leader is groomed, for the next election.

          The Suez Canaal is too important to take a chance on some fluke party winning Egypt's next election. The Egyptian military leaders flew to the USA to finalize the strategy. Pars

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            #20
            Dare is NO RULING PARTY IN EGYPT!!! The Military is da Ruling Party. The rest is gist fer Show. Don't you's know anyting???????

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              #21
              My take on General Sami Enan's departure was sudden and abrupt. Now 24 protestors dead and 1000 injured and more than 1000 detained.... I think Enan was sent back to Mubarak with a warning.

              So far these protests are not run by Islamic extreemists, The last thing the Americans want.

              My Conclussion Mubarak steps down before the weekend is through.

              But it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong so I won't put much money on it.

              Real potential for historic times in the middle east I just hope it goes down the right path....

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                #22
                Lol,pars,you scared of the big bad muslim boogy
                man western media has been shoving down are
                throats.

                The vast majority listen to mtv and watch the latest
                hollywood movies,its old hardline nut bigots we
                have to watch out for.

                To early to tell how this will shake out.

                Countries also on the watch list will be house of
                saud and pakistan-where there are a lot of nut
                cases walking around.

                If a regional nato type muslim alliance breaks out
                then all bets are off.

                Turkey will have big role to play on how things land.

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                  #23
                  I'm throwing out ideas, trying to highlight the importance of watching this scuffle, mainly because without an operational Suez, a lot of Western Canadian grains will not reach the markets they have courted. Never underestimate the influence of extremists.

                  Demmurage, stoppage, bribbery, cancellations, robbery and lost markets come to mind. Pars

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                    #24
                    This is the end of the western world domination of trade.
                    The USA is bankrupt, so is the UK.
                    The UK is scrapping half its navy, and the new carriers will have no jets to fly off them.
                    Headlines this week was £6billion worth of NEW!!!! nimrod planes(AWACS) being scrapped to save money.
                    We can no longer defend our interests abroad.
                    We still produce most of the food for export to hungry countries, but for how long?

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                      #25
                      The G20's still continue to create wealth, and people do it willingly, and they choose the G'20's to move TO, not move away FROM.

                      Willingly.

                      Many look to China as the new role model. Billions of people, 80% of them subsistent living, most of the young people are single men, no potential wives available, ...centrally planned that way, I might add. Put yourself in that bed.

                      How would you like to emulate sharia law so forceful in the Arab region, maybe you should ask your wives.

                      We are not only lucky because of what our ancestors strived to create, but we continue to subscribe to a philopophy of living that embraces the equality of opportunity, rule of law, British parliamentary system, and they provide us with choice. It's a system we must protect.

                      Economic success is not only about making money. It's about moving to, and choosing to, and wanting to create wealth in a region you want to work in, raise a family in, and enjoy.

                      So, where would you sooner live? Haiti? Cuba? Poland? Lebanon? I've been to Figi...nope. Spain?

                      80% of Egyptians lives on a few dollars a day. 83M people.

                      Yes, well.

                      Pars

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                        #26
                        Schucks, all this worldwide rioting is delaying my planned border run with 10 dollar wheat. Won't get noticed by the media at this rate.

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                          #27
                          Maybe, just for a change, the good old USA should listen to the people in these regions, at a grass roots level, and support and address the real problems..Propping up sadistic dictators hasn`t worked out to well over the years...

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                            #28
                            The alternative at the time was a similar regime to Iraq. You prefer?

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                              #29
                              Iraq?Who frickin cares,not one drop of canadian
                              blood is worth all the sand over there.

                              How long should we get our asses kicked in
                              afgana**** before we leave?And who is responsible
                              for that stupidity?

                              What if the chinese sent a million men over to
                              liberate quebec?Their fight?Their business?

                              Im sure the media could brainwash more than a few
                              clueless souls.

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                                #30
                                Back in the good old days BC (before cotton), there was an effort made to establish a little patch of land in the middle of the east, whereby an ethnic group of people established themselves to live in their own little country, and the USA kind of lined up behind them with their guns to make sure no one messed with the settlers.

                                Took a lot of cash and negotiating to do it. It meant paying for an army in the region, only in those days it was less than the $1.4B it costs today to maintain it. The locals were real pissy, but right or wrong, it was a done deal.

                                And the paid army did keep order.

                                Was it worth it?

                                Some would say no.

                                Gotta say, the landowner neighbors didn't like folks that had moved in, never did, still don't, and without a doubt would do away with the settlers in a heartbeat if the army didn't still keep a bit of order in the region. But the papers were signed in red you might say.

                                Is it worth it?

                                Hell, most young folks have forgotten the name of the group that made themselves a new home, forgot the region it's in, and even forgot how much it cost in cash and lives.

                                Is it worth it?

                                Depends soley upon how the next generation views it, doesn't it.
                                Pars

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