Lipstick on a pig.......Poll?

[blackpowder]

Stubblejumper

I respect your experience. I have some interesting experiences from the 80's to tell someday myself. (trucking grain and fertilizer into US is something everyone should try) We may have more in common than you think.
I think we can both agree that whining and complaining can be counterproductive.

[parsley]

I whine and bitch. Yup.

I read reports. And statistics. And charts. Sedar. Financial statements. Philosophy. Law. Novels. Commercial stuff. Science.

I'm not particularly good or patient or faithful at any, either. I'm just a people.

And I poke my nose where many feel I have no right to snoop, as in the Export Manufactured Feed Agreement. Or flax testing facilities and costs. Or CGC grain testers,or commercial business.

And I acknowledge stubble, that you and I don't have the same interests.

Therefore, suggesting marketing improvements, or exploring areas of possible agreement in areas of disagreement, or sharing information, or actually having fun as farmers, would show us that all of those things are not a common goal if my instincts serve me well.

I have concluded there remains, some farmers, who still pine for the days of their personal stated number of bushels permitted for milling, by the CWB, annually, hand written inside each yearly permit book. Pars

[blackpowder]

TOM4CWB

TOM, I must apologize, their are times when I don't understand some of your posts. I believe we are on the same side of this debate.

[blackpowder]

Well said Parsley!
So where does one go to explore areas of agreement, suggest improvements or share information?
Perhaps the intent of my original post was just that.
As humans it seems difficult for most to see the glass half full and see forward to change. Doing nothing but screaming negative minutea from yesterday only seems to focus a polarized narrow window on the past.

[vvalk]

Again stubble you embarrass yourself with those "ignorant" comments. Isn't it enlightening to follow pro monopoly arguments and how "simple" their arguments are.

[cityguy]

Blackpowder -
In an "open" market the worst case price scenario should be US elevators less freight back to your place, much like soybeans in Manitoba. That would probably have been the case for much of last year when the US market was to some degree relatively high priced relative to other origins. US exports at less than 900 million bushels was one of the lowest programs in decades with the offset being that the carry out at 1 billion was also one of the highest ever (not including the years when the US government owned the wheat). So your choice would be truck to the US market or simply choose to keep it at home. This year it's different where the "short" supply simply runs values up to effectively price against US values. The result is one of the biggest, if not the biggest US export program ever.

It's pretty straight forward. Canadain producers have to compete against US farmers for fertilizer, crop protection products, machinery costs - why can't they at least base their revenue off of US prices as well. Having to pay North American prices for inputs but only receive world "output" prices doesn't look like a recipe for success long term.

[parsley]

I've joined groups, blackpowder, and joined associations whom I thought might share common ground, and appeared before parliamentary and senate committees three times, and written papers for every group you could imagine, and been on conference calls, and hosted election parties, and gone to court, and written on Agriville, and maintained a blog, and met with everyone from school groups to prime minister.

Farmers are as motivated as are amoeba.

Parsley

[parsley]

bp,

As an example, I wrote my MP last week. He emailed back next day or so. We get along well. Good communication.

The thing is, the GOVERNMENT has not been prepared to move on the no- buyback marketing file, I'll bet.

[Hopperbin]

This is the problem.

can't beleive all the forward thinkers that think they produce all the grain can't come up with an option better than pricing grain into the american market

How to solve it is another problem

[Hopperbin]

Like the american system is bad because it is american. The name american must mean a bad thing, we should not price like the americans. Becauuse that is american. What the **** are we???

[BTOfarmall]

Comedians........