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    #41
    Jensend
    So much for my self esteem. Guess I'm just another
    social welfare case looking for the government to
    pay me to look after the hiking trails those city folk
    want to enjoy on the weekend. Not sure if the
    government will be prepared to support all the
    other businesses that I currently deal with. You
    seem to want to live in the real world but to
    suggest that a Euorpean farm model would work in
    Canada is full of holes. When we have surpluses of
    food, it has little value and the economics of
    farming just don't work. No different than
    producing worthless ethanol.

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      #42
      not trying to hurt anyone's self-esteem. what are the realities of the market? what does it mean to producers if the usa gives up the ethanol mandate? canada will follow suit, i'm sure. adm is or was the biggest ethanol producer and getting billions in subsidies and they won't give it up easily but if they see the mandate disappearing you can bet they will have an exit strategy. i think the biggest danger to farmers or ranchers is the fact that governments and consumers are broke. how big a puff of inflation will it take to start a chain of events that will be catastrophic for producers who buy high priced inputs only to find the production is going into a smaller market and no backup?

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