Aristotle Oberg

[TOM4CWB]

dschill,

How do we stop the Bloc from taking our property rights away... when they have NO responsibility or ethical motivation but to try and make us western grain growers angry...

Shucks... we are a world away... and they could care less about anything we need... as long as they can black mail us into making the transfer payments to feather their nests in Quebec!.

We need our grain growing brothers in Ontario to give us a hand... against this evil stupidity!!!

[dalek]

Dave, reality is that, for all the complaining about
the CWB, most prairie grain farmers don't have the
backbone to actually do anything constructive
about it (with a few lonely exceptions). Point out
that Ontario farmers actually stood up and told the
wheat board here to shove it and GOT THINGS
DONE and they nod, and go back to whining for
somebody ELSE to do the work to free them from
the CWB.

Truth is, the whole myth about the independent
westerner is just that, a myth.

[dschill]

TOM4CWB I live and farm 15 mins from the QUEBEC border. Trust me, the discontent you feel I see everyday. The legalization of corruption is unbelievable. Get this, the Quebec farmers voted in-favor-of and developed their own "Quebec Wheat Board" because of politically meandering of their own UNION to better meet the needs of the wheat farmers enrolled in ASRA. I could tell you stories all day of the corruption right at the farm gate, because of Quebecs farm support policy and and the UNIONS sucking of the top. Is a story right from John Grisham.

[silverback]

Tom I completely disagree on the cwb front. They have ignored this issue as much as humanly possible. I don't care anymore if it is a minority situation. At some point you have to stand up for what is right and say it. Or they have to find a way to give us the freedom we deserve.

Tell me why Mr. Ritz cannot order the board to give out cost free export permits?

I have never heard one real reason that cannot be done.

[TOM4CWB]

Dale,

Thanks.. I think... but being shot at by Feds with all the guns... is no fun... we spent millions in court... to have eastern Canadian Judges and Goodale sell out to the liberal mafia.

Some do not think it worth the risk...or the fight... for freedom.

Glad you had the backbone to stand up and be counted... it was a great day in Canada for freedom... when Ontario wheat growers shed the chains of indifference and Eugene Whalan's tyrannical legacy.

Bless you and Cheers!

[TOM4CWB]

Silverback,

You are frustrated. I understand. A Cabinet Minster must vet all actions through the Justice Dept. We know any action you prescribe would bring court action by the CWB.

Uncertainty to have multiple rulings against your solution by judges who have ruled against your request many times.

[dalek]

I think you've been one of the lonely ones Tom.
Somehow I doubt they'll name one of their ships after
you.

[wmoebis]

Tom, Don't take me wrong. I'm just asking here.

Do you think things would turn out different today under this gov't?

Was it poor timing given the politics at that time?

Will it be tried again using what you have learnt?

[TOM4CWB]

wmoebis,

Given the judges Chuck had to deal with... it was not a big surprise... IN HINDSIGHT!

I would have been with Silver 100%... but that Liberal Judges protect Goodales special status CWB public/private corp is no surprise.

Goodale did an excellent job of putting armour plating on the CWB Act... with much thought put into the control issues in governance. Since Goodale wrote the statute... he called the shots on interpretation.

Liberals gave the CWB its life and soul... so liberal judges will not let Conservatives change the CWB... without complete control of Parliament.

That is the way Goodale intended the CWB Act to be interpreted... it is written in stone... unless someone has the authority to demolish that stone foundation. Ask former Minister Charlie... and Chuck. If I were Minister Gerry... I would do exactly what he is doing... if no agreement with Goodale to change the CWB.

There is nothing more embarrassing and disappointing... to business and the nation... legally... than failure to execute judgement on an initiative like change to the CWB mandate!

The costs of failure are substantial and real... often hidden and never seen.

I know. Our farm has paid... I would bet so has Silver's!

[vvalk]

wmoebis
Its a simple yes or no question. No third option or confusing question. Anyone with email can respond to the poll. Why then do you think you would get a differnet result. Are you saying that open market supporters on percentage terms have more computers and therefore more access to email, to rig the vote. Would the NFU have to use snail mail to get their different results?