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    Has the table been turned on farmers?

    Just wondering if anyone else is concerned that the tables have just been turned on farmers regarding the bidding for the commodity you plant for new crop acres?
    Just as there can be a bidding war between different commodities, to get you to plant a particular grain, by increasing the price somewhat each day, I think the inverse can also be played out.
    With commodity prices in a descending trend, farmers are forced to lock in new crop prices before they trend even lower. So the bidding is reversed in that farmers will price a particular grain(the best return possible) before they drop any futher, the more farmers price the more new crop prices will drop as end users will see that their needed commodity is being commited to be planted.
    The amount of new crop pricing done by farmers will be insignificant in lowering prices as farmers lock in such a small portion this far ahead of harvest, and many farmers never lock in new crop till it's swathed or harvested. But end users also know this and when seeded acres look high enough to staisfy relative to other years then new crop prices will really fall off the table. For those farmers waiting for the price to turn upward will now be in a panic to price at a level they can still profit from, hence driving new crop even lower.

    My thoughts, mostly thinking of canloa;

    1) New crop bidding war for seeded acres is over.
    2) Farmers that haven't priced new crop soon will, while they can still get a double digit price and be profitable.
    3) The more new crop farmers price the more it will drop.
    4) If there is a drop in the equity markets, this time it will compound the drop in grains.
    5) End users will purchase Old crop hand to mouth again, preventing much of a ralley. They will use stocks already bought and crushers will shut down for maintenance.
    6) As farmers price their remaining old crop, old crop prices will continue to drop.
    7) New crop will ralley again in Dec.

    This is not marketing advice!!! Just some thoughts to spur marketing conversation.

    #2
    boarder,

    The vast majority of acres are being grown in a rotational management... and prepricing is more often than not a low percent of sales ie. less than 20% before seeding.

    You and even a good chunk of growers on Agriville may be more % priced than this...

    But with uncertainty in planting weather there can easily be big swings yet to come...

    And planned flex acres with the objective of last minute decisions as weather provides the stimulus for the decision of which crop actually gets seeded.

    Being on the 'bleeding edge' does not mean the majority of grain farmers are following.

    Virtually all crops can turn a profit... except for barley and flax I believe all are still in the flex opportunities for 2011.

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      #3
      From USDA outlook conference.

      [URL="http://www.usda.gov/oce/forum/2011_Speeches/Glauber_Joe_Speech.pdf>"]"Joe Glauber USDA[/URL]

      Note the conclusion.

      Conclusions
      At the Agricultural Outlook Forum in 2008 there was much consternation about high
      commodity prices, increasing energy costs, food price inflation, and the strength of domestic and
      foreign demand. Three years later, markets are again very tight, particularly for feed grains and
      oilseeds. While it is often said that the cure for high prices is high prices, even with additional
      supplies expected this year, it is likely that the tight stocks to use situation will not be entirely
      mitigated over the course of one or even two growing seasons. This will mean continued high
      costs for feed which will keep margins for livestock producers at low levels.
      In the short run, much uncertainty remains and with tight markets, price volatility is
      expected for most markets. In part, the outlook for 2011 will depend on the progress in global
      economic growth. The International Monetary Fund is projecting would output will grow by 4.4
      percent with advanced economies projected to grow at 2.5 percent and emerging and developing
      economies projected to grow at 6.5 percent. Leading the way is China with a projected growth
      rate of 9.6 percent. Similarly, the Economic Research Service projects world per capita real
      income will increase by 2.3 percent in 2011, double the average growth rate of 1.1 percent from
      2001 to 2010.
      Looking over the longer term, the past 6o years have been characterized by increased
      agricultural productivity and declining real prices for most agricultural commodities. Whether
      the current period marks a turning point will depend largely on whether over the long run
      productivity gains will continue to offset the growth in demand caused by rising population and
      income.

      This years USDA proceeding will be worth reviewing - particularly on their forecasts on US crop acreage allocation. Heading into a very interesting year.

      <a href="http://www.usda.gov/oce/forum/">USDA Outlook 2011</a>

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        #4
        Will try again.

        [URL="https://www.agriville.com/cgi-bin/forums/reply.cgi?1298560820"]Trade outlook[/URL]

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          #5
          Third attempt.

          [URL="http://www.usda.gov/oce/forum/2011_Speeches/Glauber_Joe_Speech.pdf"]USDA outlook[/URL]

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            #6
            will re-enter the overall conference website so you can review. Is an interesting conference.

            [URL="http://www.usda.gov/oce/forum/"]USDA Outlook[/URL]

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              #7
              More information out of the USDA outlook conference.

              [URL="http://www.agweb.com/article/usdas_glauber_sees_98_mil_more_acres_planted_in_20 11/"]agweb[/URL]

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                #8
                Talked to 4 different farmers today, and all are.....0 percent sold on next years crop.

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