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    From the CWB monitor

    http://cwbmonitor.blogspot.com/2011/03/normal-0-false-false-false-en-ca-x-none.html#comments

    It’s been almost a month since the CWB announced its purchase of two lakers. And there’s still lots to talk about.




    CWB Mandate
    An argument by the CWB (and some journalists) is that it’s well within the CWB’s mandate to make these investments. But what is the CWB’s “mandate”? Dictionary definitions of “mandate” include two that fit here:
    1. Authoritative order: an official command or instruction from an authority.
    2. Support from electorate: the authority bestowed on a government or other organization by an electoral victory, effectively authorizing it to carry out the policies for which it campaigned.
    “Authoritative order”
    First, I think it’s safe to say that with the CWB, the “authority” is the CWB Act. Although the Act does not use the word “mandate” it does clearly present the purpose of the CWB:
    “The Corporation is incorporated with the object of marketing in an orderly manner, in interprovincial and export trade, grain grown in Canada.” (underline emphasis is mine)
    The Act also empowers the CWB to purchase “personal property”:
    6. (1) The Corporation possesses the following powers: ...
    (d) to acquire, hold and dispose of real and personal property, but the Corporation shall not acquire or dispose of any real property without the approval of the Governor in Council
    So the CWB has the “power” to buy real and personal property, but it has never been made clear that this particular purchase is consistent with the mandate (object) of the CWB.


    Is the purchase of lakers by the CWB necessary to fulfill its mandate of “marketing in an orderly manner?” Does owning these vessels contribute to orderly marketing?


    “Support from electorate”
    According to the second dictionary definition of mandate – that is, “support from electorate”, the CWB board is authorized to carry out policies for which its elected members campaigned. Not one elected director campaigned on the policy of purchasing assets with farmers’ money – not in the last election, nor in the one previous. Therefore, not one director has the “support from electorate” to buy anything using farmers’ money. By this definition, they do not have the mandate.
    I checked the platforms of all sitting farmer-elected directors. Not one sitting farmer-elected director ran on a platform of making investments – of any kind.


    The farmer-elected board members did not receive a mandate from their electorate to buy vessels.




    Apparently, farmers don’t need to be consulted
    Some have taken exception to the idea that farmers should be consulted. According to Laura Rance in the Manitoba Co-operator, “Boards of directors ... should not be expected to seek the approval of their shareholders ..., even ones requiring major investments.”
    This doesn’t apply here. Farmer-elected board members have the obligation to receive a mandate from their electorate (farmers) and they didn’t. And Rance is kidding herself if she thinks farmers are “shareholders” of the CWB. Shareholders choose to invest their money in the organization and choose to sell their shares if they don’t agree with the direction of the organization. Last I checked, farmers couldn’t sell their “share” in the CWB.


    Farmers should be consulted on decisions that take the organization in new directions. Remember, farmers can’t opt out if they don’t agree.




    Oberg’s Position
    Allan Oberg, Chairman of the CWB board of directors, stated in an article “The CWB's mandate is to maximize the financial return to farmers from the marketing of their wheat and barley.”
    There is no reference in the CWB Act to maximizing the financial return to farmers. And a review of CWB Annual Reports comes up empty as well. There is no way to connect the dots from “CWB mandate” to “maximize financial returns” to “owning lakers”.


    No one closely observing the CWB would ever get the message that it has the mandate to buy lakers.




    But it’s such a great deal
    The CWB using farmers’ money to buy these lakers is like a married man using his wife’s money (without asking) to buy her a new sports car and he thinks she should be OK with it because it was such a good deal. And then he’s surprised when she wants a divorce.


    If the CWB had the mandate to spend farmers’ money on lakers (which they don’t), there would be less of an argument here. Good deal or not.




    And who’s going to own these ships anyway?
    According to the CWB’s news release, “Prairie farmers will become owners of ships that move their wheat on the Great Lakes, under an agreement reached today between the Canadian Wheat Board (CWB) and shipping companies Algoma Central Corporation and Upper Lakes Group Inc.”


    Wrong. Although Prairie farmers will pay for the vessels, they will never own them. The CWB will own the vessels but farmers do not own the CWB.




    Survey results
    Shortly following the announcement of the purchase, I launched an open survey by email to Prairie farmers, asking the simple question: “Do you support the CWB’s purchase of lakers as reported by the CWB on Feb 8th, 2011?”
    I asked farmers to respond by return email, simply answering yes, no, or maybe (don’t know).
    With well over 600 farmers responding so far, the results are:
    NO 90.0%
    YES 7.5%
    DK 1.5%
    Even self-identified single desk supporters are dead-set against the purchase of these lakers.


    The resounding concern among farmers is the use of their money without their choice.




    What if participation was voluntary?
    What if the CWB allowed farmers to choose to invest? After all, that’s what the big deal is about – choice. The CWB could offer the financing of this deal as a private placement to those farmers that support the idea and want to, and are able to, invest. These investors would then get a return on their investment in the form of interest. Once the purchase price is recouped through operating the vessels, all farmers would benefit in the ongoing operation of the vessels.


    If the CWB asked for voluntary participation and farmers chose not to, should it go ahead with using farmers’ money to purchase the lakers anyway?




    The CWB Act
    Oberg's Arguments
    CWB Annual Reports
    CWB Director Candidate Profiles
    CWB Laker Purchase News Release

    #2
    Very well done. Couldn't agree more.

    When the Finance Department and Minister Ritz turned down CWB Directors... it becomes VERY obvious this is an illegal action. The rail cars purchase were obviously approved by the Minister and the Finance Dept.

    The CWB directors liability insurance policy had better be up to the task of paying to exit this bad decision.

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      #3
      Thank you for going through the CWB ACT in relationship to the Francisco.

      I am a bit confused about the role of the Governor in Council.

      I understand that the Governor in Council means the Governor General.

      From the CWB ACT the following:

      6. (1) The Corporation possesses the following powers: ...
      (d) to acquire, hold and dispose of real and personal property, but the Corporation shall not acquire or dispose of any real property without the approval of the Governor in Council.


      Why would the Governor General approve the purchase of the boats?

      Comment


        #4
        Lifer,

        Google Privy Council:

        "The Privy Council Office (PCO) is the hub of non-partisan, public service support to the Prime Minister and Cabinet and its decision-making structures."

        http://www.pco-bcp.gc.ca/oic-ddc.asp?page=secretariats&lang=EN

        Each Governor in Council (GOC)decision has a process to approve it's implementation:

        •Privy Council (P.C.) Number
        •Registration number (Part II, Canada Gazette)
        •Publication date (Canada Gazette, part II)
        •Legislative Authority
        •Sponsoring department
        •A brief description


        Minister Responsible for the CWB Ritz must use this process AFTER PM Harper's Cabinet approves that decision.

        Hence Minister Ritz cannot issue a GOC order... to the CWB...on a whim... it must be approved by this 'third party' process.

        Comment


          #5
          Thanks for the pat on the back Lifer but its John De Pape who dug this stuff up, I'm just passing it along.

          Comment


            #6
            Fransisco,

            Question,

            ARE the Ships... when on the ocean or Canadian Sea Way... hauling freight; Real Property as defined in 'CWB Act Section 6'?

            I would say there is a very strong argument that these vessels are 'real property' under maritime law and international law.

            Background:


            CWB Act Section 6
            Powers

            6. (1) The Corporation possesses the following powers:
            (d) to acquire, hold and dispose of real and personal property, but the
            Corporation shall not acquire or dispose of any real property without the approval of the Governor in Council;

            Comment


              #7
              While the Acts and orders may or may not show the CWB was ok in buying the vessels, what can be done about it? In ag we are very efficient at identifying issues, but action seems less so.

              Comment


                #8
                I was thinking of holding my breath and stamping my feet until things change.

                Comment


                  #9
                  WD9,

                  We are 'interested CWB producers' and have a right to a hearing in the Federal Court.

                  Been there... done that... time and money is all we need!

                  Probably cheaper to fight the Ship buying spree... than pay for what they are telling us we must pay...

                  I will see what we can do!

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                    #10
                    Could farmers demand that the CWB ask for their support (money)?

                    If the CWB board refuses to ask, and just goes ahead with the purchase, then it should be seen as an abuse of power and a disregard for farmers' individual interests.

                    If the CWB agrees and the level of support is extremely low, and the CWB still goes ahead with the purchase using farmers' money, it is an abuse of power.

                    If you get enough farmers to contribute/participate, then the only way the CWB can come clean through this process is to:

                    1. Ask for farmers' permission.
                    2. Abide by the results.

                    Anything else is an insult.

                    Now - how do you get farmers to collectively demand that the CWB ask for permission?

                    Petition?
                    Letters to MPs?
                    Letters to CWB directors?
                    Class action law suit?

                    Comment


                      #11
                      To jdepape, you ask

                      Now - how do you get farmers to collectively demand that the CWB ask for permission?

                      Petition?
                      Letters to MPs?
                      Letters to CWB directors?
                      Class action law suit?


                      What about all of above. Start with the top 3, and if nothing gets done, do the class action law suit.

                      Comment


                        #12
                        A petition? To whom? Ritz could have cleaned
                        this up a month ago.Letters to MPs? MPs are
                        sheep. Letters to the directors? They would have
                        a good laugh at Baileys. CLASS ACTION.

                        Comment


                          #13
                          Petition to the CWB board demanding the CWB ask permission to use farmers' money.

                          NOT demanding the CWB ask your opinion - that's useless. They need to be told to ask your permission to take your money.

                          And only if you say "yes" should they take it.

                          Imagine if you demand that they ask your permission, and they refuse.

                          Imagine if they ask your permission and you refuse.

                          Now, either way, that's a story for the mainstream media!

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