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    #31
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    they can’t help you ...

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    What a self serving bullshit statement and I take exception to it.

    While we were fighting the single desk with our own own time and money, you were still trying to do business with the CWB. When that did not materialize, the light finally came on??

    This is a political decision - if you think that letters to the editor, main stream media appearances and a blog are going to change anything, you havent been following this fight very well.

    I watched how much influence the CWB monitor had during the last election. How did that work for the rest of you?

    I had more vistitors on Fertilizer Buddy in a ONE fn day than you did in the entire run of the CWB Monitor. I love this line: If you think you have influence, come and call my dog...I'll call yours and get the same result.

    Influence a politician through lobbying - good fn grief - what rock have you been under.

    Grain marketing in western Canada will change when farmers (NOT producers Shaney) take matters into their own hands - just as they do in Quebec - in France - in Argentina.

    Farmers: Grow up and take your business back. You are in this predicament because you have stood to the side and let someone else fight your fights.

    If 1000 of you spent $500.00 on airfare and camped out at Ottawa for a day - blocked both houses from sitting - you would get all the national media attention you need to start change - and you wouldn't have to buy advertisments Maurice.

    If 1500 of you want to spend $500.00 - start a ****ing charter challenge.

    I used to think I would see change to grain marketing during my lifetime; however, if farmers don't take this into their own hands, it won't happen and that is coming from someone who has been on this file since 1987.

    Now where is my nitro..

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      #32
      WANTED-Any former or present employees of the Canadian Wheat Board to provide information that leads to the arrest and conviction of any past or present CWB employees and directors.$10,000 Reward.

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        #33
        Larry:

        Don’t take this personally.

        Your <b>NEWSLETTER</b> can’t help farmers fight the CWB effectively. Unless your sponsor has changed his policy regarding content about the CWB. Your newsletter – and the marketing guidance that Duvenaud, Kostal and Tjaden-Lepp provide – good as it all is - is not what is needed here. I think this is what JDGreen is saying about The CWB Monitor too. We need more than writing. Last I looked, no one is offering to do what I am offering. Unless you are and just haven’t told me.

        You’re absolutely right – farmers need to take matters in their own hands. To do that they need ammunition, guidance, resources and commitment. If you’re willing to step up to the plate, great. We need all the help we can get.

        You don’t seem to think lobbying works. Seriously? Try to tell that to the NRA. Lobbying is the number one industry in Washington and getting close to that in Ottawa. The mistake we’ve all made on the CWB file is that we don’t go in with the right weapons. Information. Knowledge. Facts. Yes, even credibility. All anyone has ever done before is to go in and try to change Easter’s or Goodale’s mind by saying the CWB is unconstitutional. Or to beg Ritz to “do something”. How’s that been working?

        Lobbying works. You just need the right ammunition.

        And look how this thread started – with the idea of an advertising campaign. A form of lobbying or influencing. And your idea of a rally. Same thing – different tactic. It’s all about getting noticed. It’s all good.

        If 1000 guys want go to Ottawa and camp out for a day or two, good on ‘em. I’ll go with them. Hell, I’ll help organize it. How about you? Will you help?

        I can see why you’re frustrated Larry. On the file since 1987 and nothing to show for it. What’s that definition of insanity .... doing the same thing over and over expecting to get a different result. Time to do something different. That's why some of us have tried different tactics with the CWB - like talking to them or working with them (one step forward), instead of yelling at them (two steps back). You may see fault in some of it, but everything I've done or tried to do is with the fundamental objective of CWB reform. And there's more tactics to try. Just watch me.

        If the CWB Monitor can provide the resources for farmers to revolt effectively, I’d be thrilled.

        You got a bit of a head of steam going there, Larry. Sure would be great to have that firepower on our side aimed the other way.

        I'd like to see the CWB change in your lifetime too. Getting pissed off at me because I touched a nerve doesn't help the cause. (two steps back.)

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          #34
          WOW.

          What GREAT energy is here!!!

          We need to score a touchdown!

          We are frank with each other... when we truly realise that each of us when working TOGETHER... become many times STRONGer, the farce of CWB deceptions can be beaten back.

          Unless we are willing to spend more time, MONEY, and become better organised than the CWB... we will not beat this crazy beast back (the CWB 'single desk') in to the CAve it belongs in... and chain it up for good!

          We need Larry.

          We need John.

          We need ALL of us!!!

          If we spent 10% of what we lose on each of our farms; to CWB arrogance and blunders... we could burry this beast for good.

          There is a federal election comming... we must make this an issue in OUR election... it is even more important than CWB director elections!

          WHAT are we going to do about this???

          Cheers!!!

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            #35
            Im going to laugh my ass off the day when the
            conservatives are not in power and one of those
            western mps stands up and starts screaming "free
            western farmers and get rid of the gun registration"


            Then we will have come full circle and a few of you
            might wake up to this thing called reality.

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              #36
              Open for public comment till end of March...
              http://www.grainews.ca/issues/story.aspx?aid=1000403492&link_source=aypr_GRN&lin k_targ=DailyNews

              http://www.grainscanada.gc.ca/consultations/2011/fees-frais/ifcd-dcfi/ifcd-dcfi-00-eng.htm

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                #37
                Personaly, I think the day the conservetives are no longer in power will be a sad day for western Canada. Electing a bunch of Liberal or NDP MPs will not help our cause of freedom from the CWB. For now we might as well wait and see if we are in an election campaign by the end of this month. If we are we need to work to get as many MPs elected the support market choice as possible. If we get a majority of market choice MPs elected then we need to hold them to their promises after the election. That will be the time to go to Ottawa. And we need numbers, as many as possible.

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                  #38
                  Single full page ad in the Globe:

                  National
                  Mon-Fri......$70,000
                  Sat..........$77,000

                  Eastern only
                  Mon-Fri......$36,000
                  Sat..........$40,000

                  1/2 page:

                  National
                  Mon-Fri......$36,000
                  Sat..........$40,000

                  Eastern
                  Mon-Fri.......$9,000
                  Sat..........$14,000

                  Colour? Add $4k / $10k

                  Plus add production costs

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                    #39
                    If we farmers wont to make a differnce with the cwb we need to be in Ottawa when the bill on opting out of the pool is debated in the house. If farmers were there in support of that bill maybe THEY would GET IT we wont the feedom to market OUR wheat and barley.

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                      #40
                      Larry, you my man, are speaking my language. We farmers need to grow some nards. I would be first in line, but I need guidance, leadership, etc.. I agree it is in our hands, and this bs of whining while growing board grains, whining while sitting on our hands has to stop. I unfortunately have no 500 bucks to spare right now. But if someone steps up who is a leader and gets the ball rolling, I will find a way.

                      Larry, can you be the leader? Who should lead? WHO WILL LEAD?

                      TOM????

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